Margin Money???

kedarvb · #1 30th October 2007, 05:55 PM

Hi Guys,
I Am Trading Especially In Nifty F&o.
Pl. Give Me Following Info So That I Can Make Some Money Management For Trading

Kindly Let Me Know Total Margin Moneny In Following Transactions-
I) Purchasing Or Selling Nifty Future

I) Purchasing Nifty Future With Purchasing At Par Put Or With 100 Pts Below Put Or With 100 Pts Above Put

Ii)selling Nifty Future With Purchasing At Par Call Or With 100 Pts Below Call Or With 100 Pts Above Call

Iii) Selling Put And Call Nifty Option At Par Or Both At Above Or Both At Below.

Is There Any Margin Calculator To Calculate These All

Pl. Guide & Share

I Hope This Info Will Also Become Useful For New F&o Traders

Kedar

kedarvb · #2 2nd November 2007, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faltub

Margians for selling and buying are same. For Nifty futurs , u need approximately 40 K.
For buying option u need to multiply rate X lot u want to buy.
For selling option, u need equal margian as for fut.

F

friend,
thanks for your attentation,
btw,
when we purchase put & take future we hedge & i.e.why margin reduces that i want to know
do you have margin calcy or formula

thanks again

kedar

bpbansal · #3 2nd November 2007, 11:42 PM

I would be able guide you better if you inform me about your trading platform. All the information is there in your teading software.

Bansal

kedarvb · #4 3rd November 2007, 12:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bpbansal

I would be able guide you better if you inform me about your trading platform. All the information is there in your teading software.

Bansal

HI,
I TRADE THROUGH INFOLINE,
UNFORTU. MY RM DOESKNOW THIS ALL , HE JUST GAVE ME THEIR
SPAN MARGIN SHEET OF ALL STOCKS & NIFTY

CAN YOU GIVE ME ANY FORMULA TO CALCULATE MARGIN MONEY
FOR NIFTY FUTURE & ALSO IN CASE WITH HEDGING( I.E. BUY FUTURE & BUY PUT )

THANKS

KEDAR

bpbansal · #5 3rd November 2007, 07:00 AM

dear kedar,

There is no fixed formula. margins are daily prescribed by nse depending on market conditions and that of particular entity. if u trade on TT5 or TTadvance, open "link" at the top bar and eneter span margin details. u would find daily margins applicable for all entities. for hedging, u are charged exposure margin only once i.e. u are charged two span margins and one exposure margin. meanwhile pl let me know your investment size and brokerage paid. I may suggest u better options. if u r new trader, my sincere advice is not to trade in derivatives intitally. first do mock trading only, otherwise u may land yourself in soup.

regards

bansal

Raj_24 · #6 3rd November 2007, 08:44 PM

Hey guys

Marging percentage required for Nifty Trading is about 15% which works out to about Rs 44000 for the Future.

Regarding options for buying no margin is required as the premium is paid upfront.

For selling options you need the margin of 15 percent of the total value of the option sold strike price * quantity * 15 %

Thx
Raj

kedarvb · #7 4th November 2007, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faltub

avid the trap,don't use put for heading future, it will reduce ur profit also if mkt play range bound, ur future would be at approx same level but put would lose it's value, either short call or use s/l

F

i accept that in rangebound mkt situation put 's time value will be deterioted , but in this major strong bull run , always short call will be hit. , it will restrict our profit , also that time call ( in which we are short ) will be at high premium , so sqr.of also not profitable & that is why we will be locked .

so combining both together ,
when option at highh time value we should short call & when options at lower value we should purchase put.

pl. comment

thanks

kedar

snyl · #8 5th November 2007, 11:47 AM

Quote:

margins for selling and buying are same. For Nifty futures , u need approximately 40 K.
For buying option u need to multiply rate X lot u want to buy.
For selling option, u need equal margin as for fut.

F

For writing a option contract(selling) margin money charged different from one another trading site,some charges as u said equivalent of fut contract price,some charges as per in money or out of money position and and on going buy premium,it is very different charges take by the trading sites,what is actually to be charged it is yet to find out

snyl · #9 5th November 2007, 11:57 AM

Quote:

Hey guys

Marging percentage required for Nifty Trading is about 15% which works out to about Rs 44000 for the Future.

Regarding options for buying no margin is required as the premium is paid upfront.

For selling options you need the margin of 15 percent of the total value of the option sold strike price * quantity * 15 %

Thx
Raj

This is not a way every trading site follow, all are having different parameter to charge the margin money for selling of option whether in money or out of money position taken and on going buy premium at that moment of execution of the contract

kedarvb · #10 12th November 2007, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faltub

Margians for selling and buying are same. For Nifty futurs , u need approximately 40 K.
For buying option u need to multiply rate X lot u want to buy.
For selling option, u need equal margian as for fut.

F

HI FRIEND, I THINK FOR MARGINS FOR SELLING CALL OR PUT IS NOT SAME AS OF NIFTY FUTURE, IT IS BASED ON STRIKE PRICE ALSO, BUT I DONOT KNOW EXACTLY THAT CALCULATION OF MARGIN CAN YOU THROW SOME LIGHT ON IT....

KEDAR