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vivektrader

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ST Sir, I have one small query. What if NF opens Big GAP down. 9400 call will become zero, But 8800 put may shoot up beyond the premium collected. How do you manage such situations. It will help us a lot in understanding of dealing with GAPS.

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When 9400 call has been sold, bearishness is expected, then, how a gap down will make position worse.
Basically by selling both 9400 calls and 8800 puts the expectation is that the underlying will expire between these 2 extremes, until these extremes are violated, we get to keep the entire premium.

Vivek
 
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ST Sir, I have one small query. What if NF opens Big GAP down. 9400 call will become zero, But 8800 put may shoot up beyond the premium collected. How do you manage such situations. It will help us a lot in understanding of dealing with GAPS.

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Yes,if the market opens 300 points gap down, I will lose on 8800 puts and gain on 9400 calls.It is not a hedged strategy....so if 8800 gets violated, I will have to make a choice of whether to repair it or take the loss and close the positions. If the gap is due to some geopolitical reasons which could crash the market further, I will book the loss and look for the next trade but if the break is slow and limping move, I will try to repair by selling 8500 or 8600 calls. That decision will be based on how violently market breaks 8800 on downside...

I do not expect 8800 to get cracked but anything can happen in the market and we have to be prepared with the action plan beforehand.

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travi

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ST Sir, I have one small query. What if NF opens Big GAP down. 9400 call will become zero, But 8800 put may shoot up beyond the premium collected. How do you manage such situations. It will help us a lot in understanding of dealing with GAPS.

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Yes,if the market opens 300 points gap down, I will lose on 8800 puts and gain on 9400 calls.It is not a hedged strategy....so if 8800 gets violated, I will have to make a choice of whether to repair it or take the loss and close the positions. If the gap is due to some geopolitical reasons which could crash the market further, I will book the loss and look for the next trade but if the break is slow and limping move, I will try to repair by selling 8500 or 8600 calls. That decision will be based on how violently market breaks 8800 on downside...

I do not expect 8800 to get cracked but anything can happen in the market and we have to be prepared with the action plan beforehand.

Smart_trade
The very small delta selling leverages a safety strategy that ST Sir is exploiting.
A simple example, HDFCBank has a 30% weightage in BN but when it jumped 750pts Futures was up only 400pt bcos mkt also has to factor that in.

Similarly, such huge gaps have a very low probability and we ride that.
If it does gap, then one has to manage position.
Trump election time, BN gapped down 1000+ and closed in green so no need to panic, mkt also is screwed and it has to level which will have to support sudden changes.
worst case scenarios have very low probability n u have to book loss like normal trade and comeback to earn.
 
Also, upside is capped by daily TDST resistance at 9246 as of now.

Vivek
Yes, and for this strategy the real risk is downside gap due to some outside geopolitical news.300 points upward gap is very very rare.....as there is no such news on the horizon.

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msa5678

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Yes, and for this strategy the real risk is downside gap due to some outside geopolitical news.300 points upward gap is very very rare.....as there is no such news on the horizon.

ST
Thank you, ST Sir , for the detailed reply. You have rightly pointed out about my query, which was about violent downward GAP.

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Subhadip

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So basically sell DEEP ITM PAIR ?
Any guidance on how far we should look? Here the gap is 500 points. Any relation with VIX?
if vix goes up, then also no problem..as i am doing it for expiry.

I do not think that market will break any of the extreme by may expiry...

Lets see..
 
if vix goes up, then also no problem..as i am doing it for expiry.

I do not think that market will break any of the extreme by may expiry...

Lets see..
Possibility of 8900 breaking cannot be ruled out due to some bad news like bomb attacks, election etc in foreign countries. But in case 8900 is broken, you can cover 8900 call sold and sell 8600 or 8700 calls....

How do you plan to manage it if mkt breaks 8900 ? That will give more confidence to traders wanting to trade as they have the strategy thought out before taking a trade....

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vivektrader

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if vix goes up, then also no problem..as i am doing it for expiry.

I do not think that market will break any of the extreme by may expiry...

Lets see..
Sir, isn't there a typo?, shouldn't it be 8900PE sold and 9400CE sold? Or I have missed something.

Vivek
 

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