hi jahan
nice explaination on institutional way of trading those trades we observed after a sound move ,most of time we miss that
my veiw is little different ,and i am watching and trading some stocks (like dabur,tataglobal,niittech and many more ) the way they move ,even i can see sometime my order exist before exeution in " ask "or " bid "side if we find the trend of those stock we can boost toward trend together plce order with strict stoploss .even 5-10 k shares can also move .5% what i feel .i am not telling to trade oppsite the trend direction it is so risky but toward trend .those who are using odin they can observe this easily using f5 keystoke
1.one got the 1% move in favour should exit (book profit) or may ride on keeping trailing stoploss for further move.
2. i think it is practically possible with 1-2 lac shares .(together like institutional order but in part by dirrent trader)
3. stock name if desclose at last ponit of time say 12.30 pm
4. most importantly faith also require among trader to not go to opposite trade
may be these are all look like theoritically .but what i feel this is practically possible .feel free to post your descent veiw ,specially those who are use odin terminal .
treate like a poll
hello,
yes.... we frequently miss those trades which are Manipulated or run by Institutional...why because t our terminal can't able to process the order. we can't get filled when we are right when these fellows are involved not most of the times sometimes we get filled.
i will explain u one order type they frequently used to misinform the retail trader ... and the order is called...increment order.
let say.. they are on Buy side..
wat they simply do is they put a heavy automated buy order at a predefined increment let say of 1000 shares that, automated machine will show only 1000 shares when these are bought it will show another 1000 until their total order is filled.....in this mean time they come on sell side., and sell 5000 or 10000 shares to misguide retail trader ,,and when they gather enough sellers for thier original order that is buy...after that u know wat can happen they simply now look for buyers at their predefined level and do the same process oppositely.
mind u this is only one way...but there are lots of other ways which i can't explain.
u said its practically possible .....and my answer is yes and No.
for Yes.. u need Super computers and Sophisticated softwares and Level-1 or 2 Data for that , which is can't possible for retail Trader if u gather 1000-2000 Tarders also combining all of them also u can't afford that much
cost. They pay 10-15lacs for Data only and for managed leased line 2-3lacs.
computers and softwares comes around 100-200CR depending on their capacity/no of Traders they have.
ur talking about 1-2lacs shares ..... can u observe no of outstanding shares of any stock they seldom cross 2lacs..how can u trade 1-2lacs
ur talking about all traders combine..and initiate trade at same time or with slight delay can u control 1000-2000 traders, when we have no control on ourselves while trading.
about Odin Terminal...as i already said its level-5 if they give u level-2 also u can't able to judge. it requires lot of skill to be a tape reader and takes time to learn.
now u decide .....which side to go either for "YES or No"
regards,
jahan