Is there any successful day trader in this forum??

#1
Hi,

I have been visiting this site for quite some time and reading all the interesting notes written here. I would like to thank all those generous people who have shared their trading ides with everyone. I have always been reading through different day trading strategies and view feedback and other comments on them.

I am starting this thread because I want to search for a successful day trader (not only full timebut successful) who earns a decent amount consistently.

There are loads of threads with magical day trading ideas but it seems everyone is losing consistently including me.

So If there is a single day trader who is making even a small money consistently please respond because I always wondered whether is it possible to make money (rather earn money) through day trading.

I would be very privileged to know such a person who earns money in day trading with whatever strategy he applies.

Thanks,
Pinbis
 

iamaaditya

Active Member
#3
Replying just so that you don't get dissapointed in 'no replies' ... (and develop wrong impression abt traderji members)

I don't know what is your definition of success ? is it a fixed ROI (annualised), fixed VAMI or less desirable fixed Amt ?

i know quite a few people who are trading intraday (fulltime) with positive expectancy. thus if you needed to hear this only to quench your incertitude then in one line 'yes it is possible'. but if this gives you some solace then it may be leading you at wrong path hence I abstain from replying to such posts (and I think other seniors too).
On personal basis yes I have also traded intraday for sometime with positive returns but have switched to forex as far as short tf is concerned.

you will get there but it needs a lot of study (books), research (work) and experience (screen-time). If you are starting in trading then I would humbly request you to abstain from intraday for some time atleast till you have gained understanding of markets to some extent where you understand value of risk (not VAR) and money management.

there are few books I can recommend to you (for day trading or otherwise) let me know if you are interested in giving some time to education.

also, have a look at this post (from legendary Saint) and you will see for yourself if intraday can be successful or not (but beware even for great saint it took 9 years before he could make such trades
http://tradewithsaint.wikidot.com/f...capital-of-5l-from-june-20th-2009#post-550256

thanks for listening
 
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#4
Thanks for replying Adi,

My intention was not to challenge anybody but to find one. I hope you get that it was not offensive. :)

It's not that I am making only losses. I am not new to the markets as well. I had been investing earlier. But trying out intraday for last 3-4 months. I climb to '+ve zone' after some days of struggle and then one wrong decision pulls me back to the '-ve' territory. This keeps me demotivating, and occasionally makes me think of quitting.

Thats why I was really searching for successful day traders who could provide me some guidance which works in the practical world of day trading.

Well, by successful i meant (as i mentioned in my first post) who is earning consistently (may be a small amount). Because after all you are in the stock market to earn. I didn't mention any amount on monthly basis or yearly basis because I know that would depend on many factors like ur invested capital, ur risk taking capability, the exposer ur broker is providing you etc.

I have studied lot of techniques and tried to apply them but they give more whipsaws than winning signals.

I would highly appreciate if legend traders could guide us on some working technique which could lead us the way to become the monkey climbing the slippery pole (ultimately reaching the top).

Thanks,
pinbis
 

anuragmunjal

Well-Known Member
#5
Thanks for replying Adi,

My intention was not to challenge anybody but to find one. I hope you get that it was not offensive. :)

It's not that I am making only losses. I am not new to the markets as well. I had been investing earlier. But trying out intraday for last 3-4 months. I climb to '+ve zone' after some days of struggle and then one wrong decision pulls me back to the '-ve' territory. This keeps me demotivating, and occasionally makes me think of quitting.

Thats why I was really searching for successful day traders who could provide me some guidance which works in the practical world of day trading.

Well, by successful i meant (as i mentioned in my first post) who is earning consistently (may be a small amount). Because after all you are in the stock market to earn. I didn't mention any amount on monthly basis or yearly basis because I know that would depend on many factors like ur invested capital, ur risk taking capability, the exposer ur broker is providing you etc.

I have studied lot of techniques and tried to apply them but they give more whipsaws than winning signals.

I would highly appreciate if legend traders could guide us on some working technique which could lead us the way to become the monkey climbing the slippery pole (ultimately reaching the top).

Thanks,
pinbis

hi Pinbis

if it makes u feel better.....it is possible.
giving u facts which are verifiable.. mbl & co. Delhi employed hundreds of day traders (scalpers & arbitraguers) who were paid a salary ranging frm 20k to 4 lacks per month, not today, some five years back..
obviously a person taking around 4lacks as salary would be giving an output of atleast 8-10 lacks pm.

but the fact is that it is a very difficult job. it may take years..and even then there is no gauranty.

regards
 
#6
Hi Anurag,

Thanks for stopping by!!! Good fact boss

Then I am sure not too many winning day traders would be available outside mbl & co.. I have been reading this hundreds of times that only 5% of the day traders are successful and this company might have absorbed them all..just on a lighter node.. :D

Thanks,
pinbis
 

iamaaditya

Active Member
#7
Thanks for replying Adi,

My intention was not to challenge anybody but to find one. I hope you get that it was not offensive. :)

It's not that I am making only losses. I am not new to the markets as well. I had been investing earlier. But trying out intraday for last 3-4 months. I climb to '+ve zone' after some days of struggle and then one wrong decision pulls me back to the '-ve' territory. This keeps me demotivating, and occasionally makes me think of quitting.

Thats why I was really searching for successful day traders who could provide me some guidance which works in the practical world of day trading.

Well, by successful i meant (as i mentioned in my first post) who is earning consistently (may be a small amount). Because after all you are in the stock market to earn. I didn't mention any amount on monthly basis or yearly basis because I know that would depend on many factors like ur invested capital, ur risk taking capability, the exposer ur broker is providing you etc.

I have studied lot of techniques and tried to apply them but they give more whipsaws than winning signals.

I would highly appreciate if legend traders could guide us on some working technique which could lead us the way to become the monkey climbing the slippery pole (ultimately reaching the top).

Thanks,
pinbis
Ya I know you didn't have ill-intentions or doubt on other's capabilities.

I would suggest you to be extra careful (ofcourse I cannot tell you not to), while trading in such a short timeframe (intraday), If you have read Long term secrets to short term trading by Larry williams you will understand the dangers or like Dirk says in Bird watching in Lion country -- short tf trading is like being on the road with traffic passing both sides, (while he compares long tf trading to sitting on mountain top and watching the highway) or if you have read Fooled by Randomness-- the ratio of random noise (in the results of your trading (not the market data)), is exponentially higher to fool you into success (page number67/68). I am not discouraging short TF trading, lot of them do it, but I am saying it is something when you do once you have mastered the nuances and achieved zen like thinking (cool and calm), big money is made in big tf (ofcourse it is boring, but you can use this time to spend in education, as confucious said eduction is best insurance one can buy).

I think it would be hard for anyone to guide you into successful intraday trading because intraday trading (as upto my experience) is very intuitive (subjective) (especially the exit part, this intuition will come after lot of screen-time, especially correlating with other market behaviours and past patterns observed (too many such patterns to either codify or simplify) (ofcourse this applies to non HFT trading, which is again a different domain and where we are espcially looking at statistical arb trades with very low latency, and I am sure you are not looking to trade on HFT).

If you still insist on intraday trades, I would consider you to pick a particular scrip (best choice an index, either Nifty or BankNifty), study the Price Action on 5 or 15 min chart, come out with some consistent strategy (again read Larry william's or Linda's book for some ideas, add various filters (to reduce the whipsaw (on badside reduces the no. of trades, (if you look differently it is boon in a disguise)) and voila.
(my experience is the reason for your too many whipsaws (if you are not over-trading) could be your (larger) position size (which compels you to have small SL, thus closing trades too early) (this is from experience and may not be the case, but more often I find position size is key to different problems ) (try the software 'Market System Analyzer' , it will guide you))

may your results be proportional to your hardwork
aaditya
 

Taurus1

Well-Known Member
#8
So If there is a single day trader who is making even a small money consistently please respond because I always wondered whether is it possible to make money (rather earn money) through day trading.
There are plenty and yes, it is very possible.

I have studied lot of techniques and tried to apply them but they give more whipsaws than winning signals.
This is the standard problem that everyone faces.

I would highly appreciate if legend traders could guide us on some working technique which could lead us the way to become the monkey climbing the slippery pole (ultimately reaching the top).
System/method is everything and nobody is going to put a working method out in the open. Forums are good for ideas but thats about it. Whatever you make is a result of your own effort and insights.
There are a number of posts about psychology, stress, and 26.00831 steps to becoming a trader:rofl: which are all a crock of sh1t.
As long as you are sure of your system and your position size is well within your capacity, you will be ok.
 

Taurus1

Well-Known Member
#10
Even though I was not trading in 2006, I am very sceptical of the quality of traders employed by mbl then. :confused:
2005-2007 was a one-way, raging bull market where any half decent trader minted money. :D
A really good daytrader would never work for anyone else.
 

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