First Hour Breakout Strategy

bandlab2

Well-Known Member
#1
This is a very good profitable day trading strategy i am following for Tata Motors. It could work with other stocks as well as long as its a good momentum stock.

Entry Note down day hi, lo at 10:00 AM, go long on breakout of high or go short on breakout of low. I dont use any buffer. I place orders blindly. i dont wait for a pullback. I place orders on both sides (some brokers may not accept this). I cancel the other leg if one leg is triggered. I dont trade this on both sides on same day. only one trade per day. thats all !!! so simple !!!

Stoploss. Never open a trade without a stoploss. In this case its the other side hi/lo. For example, if you entered long, then SL is low of the first hour candle. similarly for short, its high of 1st hour candle. again i dont use any buffer. but you can chose some buffer for your comfort

Take Profit. This is the tough part. I am not a big fan of trailing stoplosses. Lot of times it eats into your profits. ofcourse sometimes you could lose a big move. For me a fixed TP is preferable. Its 75% of the 1st hour range (high-low). Why 75% , why not 100% or 50%. you could chose any number you are comfortable with. Again this is a function of how large is the range. if its a trending day (i wish i knew this at 10:00 AM ), you can go for a larger profit. with 75%, RRR is less than 1:1, but the hit rate is good, so i am comfortable with this

Backtesting Frankly speeking i dont have tools to do this. i have the data. but need a afl which could do this. but i am following this for last 1 month and very very rarely i end up on losses. every week is profitable so far. pl paper trade for some days before you follow this

Why this will work. Market tries to settle down in first 1 hour. then look for the direction. so we go in the same direction as breakout

No trade If the 1st hour bar is too large. any thing above 12 rs is no trade for me


Example

Mar 5 2010

At 10:00 AM , day high = 814.8 low = 809, so range is = 5.8 , placed buy order at 814.8 and sell order at 809 , sell order got filled at 10:13 AM , take profit for this is 75% of range = 809 - 4.35 = 804.65 , stoploss is high at 10:00 AM = 814.8 . Result = take profit hit at 10:18 AM. this is a very very good trade, that lasted just 5 min, but every day wont be like this. if i havent taken profit at 75%, instead waited till close, i would have gained 15 rs instead of 4.35 rs. but i prefer fixed targets
 
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rkkarnani

Well-Known Member
#3
This is a very good profitable day trading strategy i am following for Tata Motors. It could work with other stocks as well as long as its a good momentum stock.

Entry Note down day hi, lo at 10:00 AM, go long on breakout of high or go short on breakout of low. I dont use any buffer. I place orders blindly. i dont wait for a pullback. I place orders on both sides (some brokers may not accept this). I cancel the other leg if one leg is triggered. I dont trade this on both sides on same day. only one trade per day. thats all !!! so simple !!!

Stoploss. Never open a trade without a stoploss. In this case its the other side hi/lo. For example, if you entered long, then SL is low of the first hour candle. similarly for short, its high of 1st hour candle. again i dont use any buffer. but you can chose some buffer for your comfort

Take Profit. This is the tough part. I am not a big fan of trailing stoplosses. Lot of times it eats into your profits. ofcourse sometimes you could lose a big move. For me a fixed TP is preferable. Its 75% of the 1st hour range (high-low). Why 75% , why not 100% or 50%. you could chose any number you are comfortable with. Again this is a function of how large is the range. if its a trending day (i wish i knew this at 10:00 AM ), you can go for a larger profit. with 75%, RRR is less than 1:1, but the hit rate is good, so i am comfortable with this

Backtesting Frankly speeking i dont have tools to do this. i have the data. but need a afl which could do this. but i am following this for last 1 month and very very rarely i end up on losses. every week is profitable so far. pl paper trade for some days before you follow this

Why this will work. Market tries to settle down in first 1 hour. then look for the direction. so we go in the same direction as breakout

No trade If the 1st hour bar is too large. any thing above 12 rs is no trade for me
At what price level did you choose Rs.12.00 as your cut off point!!! Asking this as would be better if we could quantify it in percentage terms and test it on other stocks!!
 

rkkarnani

Well-Known Member
#5
gave one example above
:p somehow missed it!!!

So if we consider Rs.12.00 at around Rs.800.00 level , is it safe to assume a 1.5% as cut off point for the first hour range!!! Though seems a bit large to me!!! Will give a look next weekend!! Seems a simple strategy!! Would be easier now since there is no first bar of 5 minutes as in the past!!!
 

bandlab2

Well-Known Member
#6
12 rs range is large for me because the stoploss would be 12 rs and TP would be around 9 rs. we may still hit TP but i would prefer range around 5-8 rs.

yes, now that there is no 5 min trading, its easy now.
 

AW10

Well-Known Member
#7
Useless strategy.:mad:
Takuma, do u have better reason then 2 words to call this strategy a failure ?

I know people who trade this profitably in US /UK market as well. And Bandlab has told that it is working from him as well.

Happy Trading
 

bandlab2

Well-Known Member
#9
today

at 10:00 Hi = 815.9, Lo = 802.10, range = 13.7.

as per system rules, its NO trade since range is more than 12.

even if traded, short was triggered at 802.10 and low was 793.25, it didnt meet our target, but closed at 794.4 and gave good profit !!!!
 
#10
This is a very good profitable day trading strategy i am following for Tata Motors. It could work with other stocks as well as long as its a good momentum stock.

Entry Note down day hi, lo at 10:00 AM, go long on breakout of high or go short on breakout of low. I dont use any buffer. I place orders blindly. i dont wait for a pullback. I place orders on both sides (some brokers may not accept this). I cancel the other leg if one leg is triggered. I dont trade this on both sides on same day. only one trade per day. thats all !!! so simple !!!

Stoploss. Never open a trade without a stoploss. In this case its the other side hi/lo. For example, if you entered long, then SL is low of the first hour candle. similarly for short, its high of 1st hour candle. again i dont use any buffer. but you can chose some buffer for your comfort

Take Profit. This is the tough part. I am not a big fan of trailing stoplosses. Lot of times it eats into your profits. ofcourse sometimes you could lose a big move. For me a fixed TP is preferable. Its 75% of the 1st hour range (high-low). Why 75% , why not 100% or 50%. you could chose any number you are comfortable with. Again this is a function of how large is the range. if its a trending day (i wish i knew this at 10:00 AM ), you can go for a larger profit. with 75%, RRR is less than 1:1, but the hit rate is good, so i am comfortable with this

Backtesting Frankly speeking i dont have tools to do this. i have the data. but need a afl which could do this. but i am following this for last 1 month and very very rarely i end up on losses. every week is profitable so far. pl paper trade for some days before you follow this

Why this will work. Market tries to settle down in first 1 hour. then look for the direction. so we go in the same direction as breakout

No trade If the 1st hour bar is too large. any thing above 12 rs is no trade for me


Example

Mar 5 2010

At 10:00 AM , day high = 814.8 low = 809, so range is = 5.8 , placed buy order at 814.8 and sell order at 809 , sell order got filled at 10:13 AM , take profit for this is 75% of range = 809 - 4.35 = 804.65 , stoploss is high at 10:00 AM = 814.8 . Result = take profit hit at 10:18 AM. this is a very very good trade, that lasted just 5 min, but every day wont be like this. if i havent taken profit at 75%, instead waited till close, i would have gained 15 rs instead of 4.35 rs. but i prefer fixed targets
Thanks.

I have done a lot back testing on this strategy. I use to trade on this strategy. I used to set profit .5% and SL 1% and same like you I never used any buffer and used to place orders blindly.

When I did back testing I got around 80-85% success, but in real trade I used to get only 65-70% and the reason was jump.
At 10:00 AM , day high = 814.8 low = 809, so range is = 5.8 , placed buy order at 814.8 and sell order at 809
Say for the above example if I put a limit buy order @814.8 and say cmp=812, then it might be possible that I don't get any stock even though stock breaks 814.8.


But anyway this is a ever green strategy.
 

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