day trading techniques for newbies .

#1
Take small profits and do multiple trades
The successful strategy for day trading is to take small profits and do multiple trades.

Basically it has been observed that many times traders especially day traders loose money due lack of knowledge.

For example - Suppose if day traders buying price is at Rs.200 then he waits till the price goes to minimum Rs.204 or Rs.205 and then they will plan to book profit, which is highly impossible on very frequent basis in single trade or in single move.

If you are expecting Rs.4 to Rs.5 as profit on share price of Rs.200 in single move then you are expecting 2% profit in single trade. So do you think it is convincing you?
We feel this doesnt sound practical and this is the reason why traders loose money after waiting for long time.
- The STT (Security Transaction Tax) is of 0.025% only selling amount.
- The stamp duty on total turnover for a day which is 0.002%.
- and finally you have to pay Regulatory charges on total turnover for a day which is 0.004%


Dont worry these all taxes will add up to very small amount at the end of the day compared to your profits in thousands.

Now lets see how to take small profit which will add up to big amount at the end of the day by doing multiple (more then one) trades.

Example - Buy KotakBank at Rs.315, quantity - 100 i.e. Rs.315 x 100 = Rs.31500.
So if you have Rs.10, 000 in your trading account you can do day trading because you get margin on your available amount for day trading.
Some brokers provide 3 or 4 times or even higher margin amount.
So you bought Kotakbank at Rs.315, Qty - 100 i.e. Rs.315x100 = 31500 and sold it at Rs.316.
You took only Rs.1 as profit for Rs.315 share price and you sold 100 shares so your profit is Rs.100.
So you get Rs.100 as profit in single trade.

Now lets calculate how much you have to pay as brokerage and taxes and finally how much you will get as your net profit behind this single trade.

Your buying amount is
= Rs.31500 (Rs.315x100 Qty shares)
= 0.05% as brokerage (we took it maximum brokerage but you may have even less) on 31500 which comes to Rs.15.75
= you have to pay service tax of 12.36% only on brokerage
= so 12.36% on Rs.15.75 comes to Rs 1.92

The total brokerage + service tax on buying is Rs.15.75 + Rs.1.92 = Rs.17.67

Now lets calculate the brokerage and taxes on selling amount
= you sold KotakBank shares at Rs.316, Qty - 100 so the amount comes to Rs.31600 (Rs.316 x 100 Qty shares)
= 0.05% brokerage on 31600, comes to Rs.15.8
= service tax 12.36% on brokerage comes to Rs.1.93

You have to pay STT (Service Transaction Tax) of 0.025% on selling amount which comes to Rs.6.32.

So total brokerage + taxes you have to pay for selling is
= Rs.15.8 + Rs.1.93 + Rs.6.32
= Rs.24.05.

Total amount you have to pay on buying and selling is
= Rs.17.67 (buying) + Rs.24.05 (selling) = Rs.41.72.

You also have to pay stamp duty and regulatory charges on total turnover.
Your total turn over is calculated by adding the buying amount and selling amount.

Buying amount is 31500 and selling amount is 31600 which adds up to Rs. 61300

Stamp duty - 0.002% and Regulatory charges - 0.004% adds up to 0.006%

On total turnover amount (Rs. 61300) the taxes comes to Rs 3.8.

So the total amount you have to pay including brokerage and taxes is only Rs 41.72 + 3.8 = 45.52

So now the conclusion is you are paying Rs.45.52 while you earned the profit of Rs.100.

So dont you think more then 50% profit in single trade is quite enough to do thousands per day.

If you continue doing such small trades with such small profits then it will end up with big amount at the end of the day.
Suppose if you do 10 trades in a day which is quite possible to add up to Rs.500 per day (Rs.50 per trade as per above example).
Now lets see how to do thousands with same strategy as mentioned above. Its simple you just have to increase your quantity of shares.

In my previous example you have brought only 100 quantities, if you make it double then your profit will also get doubled.


How much you earn in a month with the investment of Rs.10, 000?
If you follow a simple strategy take small profits and do multiple trades then have a look on below example how much money you make in a month.
= Rs.50 per trade as net profit (as per above example).
= 10 trades per day (how much trades are possible, you will come to know by doing your own paper trading, according to our
estimation 10 trades are quite possible)
= total Rs.50x10 = Rs.500 per day.
= total approximate 20 trading days in a month.

So Rs.500x20 = Rs.10,000.

Can you believe you are just making your investment double in one month? What else you want?
On the other side lets imagine you made loss on some days and not able to trade on some days.

Lets consider Rs.5000 as compensation for above losses.
Then also you are making straight 50% (Rs.5000) profit per month.
So the bottom line is forgetting greed factor and taking small profits will make miracle to your investments.
So believe in small and end up the day with big profits.


How to minimize the losses in day trading
Important points to remember before proceeding
To avoid losses and to get confidence do paper trading practice and generate profits and then plan to switch to real day trading.

1. Doing over trading is risky and you may end up in loss.
2. Be in limit and trade and you will get definite success.
3. Stay away from greed like making huge profit in a single day. This is only possible for experience traders and only after spending
years and years in the share market.

There is no guarantee that you will make profit for every trade but in fact there are chances that you may end up with losses.



1. How these losses occur
Markets are always right, no one can complain about it. It can behave in any manner and in any direction during the market hours. So it is quite possible for you to do losses.
You buy certain share and had put the selling order but at the same time if the market starts moving in downtrend direction then you have to book loss and at the same time the reverse may also happen like if you did short selling and had put the buy order at lower price and suddenly markets starts moving in upper direction. So in such situation you have to come out of the trade by accepting loss.

So to prevent heavy losses, stop loss trigger price has to be implemented.

Losses can even occur due to your own mistakes like,
i. Not able to under the specific share movements.
ii. Not in a proper mindset to do trading.
iii. Sometimes markets moves up down in very narrow range then it becomes difficult to trade and book profit and at the same time
it is also possible that you may loose your patience and start doing wrong trades.

So in such scenario you have to stop trading immediately for that day and relax or else take holiday for the day.

Finally to have to accept loss for the day (if you are not getting the market and stock directions) and close the trading for that day, dont ever try to do it forcefully and recover your losses because this may end up with more losses.

You may also come across situations like you did the trade and had put the square off order but your share price is not moving at all for long time say for last 30 minutes and so, so in such scenarios it is advisable to accept the minimum loss or minimum profit like if you are targeting Rs.1 profit then you can accept 50 paisa or so and come out of the trade and look for other trades.
Above all scenarios may or may not come to you but this is just precaution.
 

vicky_ag

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Re: day trading techniqes for newbies .

Rajinder, Good writeup.

But what about selection of shares?? How to select a proper share?
 

anuragmunjal

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Re: day trading techniqes for newbies .

hi..
a very interesting writeup indeed.
taking ur eg., if I buy 100 shares of kotak bank @315 and sell them @ 316. I make a profit of .55 paise(1re. - brokerage etc of .45 paise) *100 shares ie. 55 Rs. 10 such trades in a day and I'll make 550 Rs.
now just for the sake of argument, I am wrong on 50% of my trades for the day , I'll have to keep a stoploss of 1 re. since my profit potential is only 1 re.
hence a loss of .45 (brokerage etc.) + 1 Re.
1.45 * 100= 145 Rs.
five good trades= .55*100*5 = rs. 275
five wrong trades= 1.45*100*5 = rs.725

net loss of 450 Rs for the day. 450*20= rs. 9000 for the month.
just to break even everyday i would need 72% of my trades to move in my favour and to earn any serious money I would have be right 85- 90% of times when I trade.

Best of luck to all of u who can manage this level of accuracy in ur trading.
 
#5
Re: day trading techniqes for newbies .

Hello Rajjinder,
Interesting point of view. Have you tested or used this strategy? I have been papertrading for sometime and this is what I found. One of the days, I earned about Rs. 1700 with 6-7 trades on a total fictional investment of Rs. 3,00,000/-. When I analyzed I saw that I wasted valuable capital on unresearched stocks - just because I wanted to spread my trades and have a better strike rate. I would have earned Rs.5,000/- to 6,000/- if I would have only concentrated on 2-3 of my researched stocks. The additional trades did not fetch me any real value, infact it depleted my capital, reduced my concentration and made my trading day extremely tense. I for one feel that doing my technical analysis on a limited number of stocks and trading in adequate amount of capital will give me better returns than spreading my capital in multiple smaller lots. Just my 2 cents... I am yet to form any strategy. Few more days & weeks will have to pass for me to have one.
 

abhiwhy

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Re: day trading techniqes for newbies .

ok ! taking small profits is a very good option and i m also of same thought , but can u tell me why to buy and why at any perticular level , your exit seems to have a good reason but u haven't talked about entry technique , why i will buy at 314 why not i will short or vice -versa . what kid of technique u are following for entering into trade please give some light on this area .
happy trading
abhi:confused:
 
#7
Re: day trading techniqes for newbies .

hi..
a very interesting writeup indeed.
taking ur eg., if I buy 100 shares of kotak bank @315 and sell them @ 316. I make a profit of .55 paise(1re. - brokerage etc of .45 paise) *100 shares ie. 55 Rs. 10 such trades in a day and I'll make 550 Rs.
now just for the sake of argument, I am wrong on 50% of my trades for the day , I'll have to keep a stoploss of 1 re. since my profit potential is only 1 re.
hence a loss of .45 (brokerage etc.) + 1 Re.
1.45 * 100= 145 Rs.
five good trades= .55*100*5 = rs. 275
five wrong trades= 1.45*100*5 = rs.725

net loss of 450 Rs for the day. 450*20= rs. 9000 for the month.
just to break even everyday i would need 72% of my trades to move in my favour and to earn any serious money I would have be right 85- 90% of times when I trade.

Best of luck to all of u who can manage this level of accuracy in ur trading.
Don't be negative in life if you think negative you found negative
be positive and try to dont be greedy.
 

hills_5000

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Re: day trading techniqes for newbies .

i agree... BUT dude.they whipsaw like anything... and at 1Re this way or that way ud be out of your trade very fast... more likely on a loss.becos it's difficult to time the correct entry ... remember there is Smart Money out there waiting for guys and planning his tactics for guys just like this... suggest you read up Volume Spread Analysis before you attempt this ... IMHO..

i an trading on selected shares like punjlloyd,rel,litl etc. they have a very good movement in a trading day even market goes anywhere.
 

anuragmunjal

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Re: day trading techniqes for newbies .

hi..
its not a question of bieng negative or positive....... it is about seeing both sides of a coin.
and by the way, I feel slippage is another factor which needs consideration.
 

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