Intraday Microflow Method

debdeeps

Active Member
#1
Friends,
Inspired by Nadodavs Nifty Future Mechanical Trading, Saints 60 min flow and miniflow trading one more trading technique has come into my mind which I named Intraday Micro Flow Trading Method.
Here I am going to present the core concept.

We will start our trading exactly how we start trade in Saints Mini Flow. But once we are in trade we will shift our SAR as the trade goes in our direction.

I guess this will be good if I can explain it with example. It goes like this, suppose the first 5 min bar high is 2500 and low 2450. We noted the high and low.
High = 2500 so Long above 2500+14=2514
Low = 2450 so Short below 2450-14=2436

Now suppose we get the trade at 2514 (Long), from here on we will not consider miniflow methods rather switch to microflow method with SAR at 2514-37=2477. The main advantage of this method is of its simplicity without considering pivots, false breakout and all. Let me illustrate it how it goes. As the trade progresses in our direction and nifty moved to 2520 we move the SAR at 2520-37=2483 from initial 2477. So from now onwards we will move the SAR as nifty hits the high. Again nifty cools a bit and hit 2540 we shift the SAR to 2540-37=2503. So as the trade progresses and Nifty hits now high we shift the SAR by 37 points. Now what if we hit the SAR. Simple we reverse to Short. And add 37 points to our entry and make it as new SAR. Suppose it hit the SAR at 2530 after making high of 2567. We reverse to short at 2530 and keep 2567 as new SAR. Again say nifty goes down to 2520 then starts climbing. So when Nifty makes 2520 we move the SAR to 2520+37=2557.

Well, enough explanation, I guess. The trade moves in this way.

The Advantages:

1) Its damn simple. No confusion regarding pivots and false breakout et al.
2) Loses are minimum in a single trade.
3) We are into the flow quite early.
4) Doesnt increase our BP seeing quite high SAR. SAR is always within 37 points. So loss is max 37 points in a trade.

The Disadvantages:

1) Number of trades increases.
2) Need to monitor Nifty for new high or low quite often.

Result:

I did back test on this for the current week and found good for days where the nifty range is more than 50-60 points but performs worst in this or around this range. But still I am in the process of evaluating the performance of this method and will post as I will do the back test or trade in this method. Infact today I traded using this method and was in profit.

Here is the Todays Trades.

Trade1: Long at 2631 Stopped and reverse at 2635. Profit: 4 nifty points.
Trade2: Short at 2635 stopped and reverse at 2577. Profit: 58 nifty points.
Trade3: Long at 2577, profit booked at 2642. Profit: 65 nifty points.

Total profit: 127 points.

Great Profit for day trading. But we are not always so fortunate. Like on 20th Nov. we had worst day since it was very rage bound. But quite fortunately we generally dont have many range bound days.

Back Testing:
I already did back test for the current week and results look promising. This week end I will back test for Oct and Nov and pkatil will help me for backtesting Sep. We need volunteers for more back testing.
 

rajendrani

Well-Known Member
#2
very good, seems interesting, will also check and try to do some back testing,

Great initiative, trying to find the best and best methods for day trading, keep it up bro,

Thanks,
rajendrani
 

rajendrani

Well-Known Member
#3
I have to ask you about the time frame, what is the tf used. will this be the same as for miniflow.

rajendrani
 

debdeeps

Active Member
#4
I have to ask you about the time frame, what is the tf used. will this be the same as for miniflow.

rajendrani
Actually this method is not dependent on any time frame. We shift the SAR as nifty makes new high compared to our position for longs (vice versa for shorts) and reverse when the SAR is hit.

My friend, close all your charting software and just notice the progress of Nifty. Ofcourse charting software can help us to get recent high after we are into the trade instead of constantly observing nifty on ODIN.
 

devangan123

Well-Known Member
#6
Nice Innovation , All trading systems are result of innovation like this only , can u post back testing of last week

And if possible can u share logic of 37 points , Why u chosen 37 , is it just an observation or some thing else
 

columbus

Well-Known Member
#7
Here is the Todays Trades.

Trade1: Long at 2631 Stopped and reverse at 2635. Profit: 4 nifty points.
Trade2: Short at 2635 stopped and reverse at 2577. Profit: 58 nifty points.
Trade3: Long at 2577, profit booked at 2642. Profit: 65 nifty points.

Total profit: 127 points.
Today the first candle has O=2592 ,H=2616, L=2588, C=2588.
What made you to take LONG at 2631.Thank you.
 
#9
Friends,
Inspired by Nadodav’s Nifty Future Mechanical Trading, Saint’s 60 min flow and miniflow trading one more trading technique has come into my mind which I named “Intraday Micro Flow Trading Method”.
Here I am going to present the core concept.

We will start our trading exactly how we start trade in Saint’s Mini Flow. But once we are in trade we will shift our SAR as the trade goes in our direction.

I guess this will be good if I can explain it with example. It goes like this, suppose the first 5 min bar high is 2500 and low 2450. We noted the high and low.
High = 2500 so Long above 2500+14=2514
Low = 2450 so Short below 2450-14=2436

Now suppose we get the trade at 2514 (Long), from here on we will not consider miniflow methods rather switch to microflow method with SAR at 2514-37=2477. The main advantage of this method is of it’s simplicity without considering pivots, false breakout and all. Let me illustrate it how it goes. As the trade progresses in our direction and nifty moved to 2520 we move the SAR at 2520-37=2483 from initial 2477. So from now onwards we will move the SAR as nifty hits the high. Again nifty cools a bit and hit 2540 we shift the SAR to 2540-37=2503. So as the trade progresses and Nifty hits now high we shift the SAR by 37 points. Now what if we hit the SAR. Simple we reverse to Short. And add 37 points to our entry and make it as new SAR. Suppose it hit the SAR at 2530 after making high of 2567. We reverse to short at 2530 and keep 2567 as new SAR. Again say nifty goes down to 2520 then starts climbing. So when Nifty makes 2520 we move the SAR to 2520+37=2557.

Well, enough explanation, I guess. The trade moves in this way.

The Advantages:

1) It’s damn simple. No confusion regarding pivots and false breakout et al.
2) Loses are minimum in a single trade.
3) We are into the flow quite early.
4) Doesn’t increase our BP seeing quite high SAR. SAR is always within 37 points. So loss is max 37 points in a trade.

The Disadvantages:

1) Number of trades increases.
2) Need to monitor Nifty for new high or low quite often.

Result:

I did back test on this for the current week and found good for day’s where the nifty range is more than 50-60 points but performs worst in this or around this range. But still I am in the process of evaluating the performance of this method and will post as I will do the back test or trade in this method. Infact today I traded using this method and was in profit.

Here is the Today’s Trades.

Trade1: Long at 2631 Stopped and reverse at 2635. Profit: 4 nifty points.
Trade2: Short at 2635 stopped and reverse at 2577. Profit: 58 nifty points.
Trade3: Long at 2577, profit booked at 2642. Profit: 65 nifty points.

Total profit: 127 points.

Great Profit for day trading. But we are not always so fortunate. Like on 20th Nov. we had worst day since it was very rage bound. But quite fortunately we generally don’t have many range bound days.

Back Testing:
I already did back test for the current week and results look promising. This week end I will back test for Oct and Nov and pkatil will help me for backtesting Sep. We need volunteers for more back testing.
Hi,

Thanks for the new initiative.

Would you please help me in clarifying/verifying the following points:

1. Entry will be as per Saint's mini flow method.
2. SAR will be changed by constant value of 37 and is not based on timeframes/pivots etc. For example, for a long trade, after initial entry, SAR is always nifty new high - 37.
However, which value should be taken as the nifty new high? In the example trade, we enterd @ 2514 and moved SAR once price hits 2520. Just trying to understand why we change SAR exactly at 2520 and not at say 2518 or 2522 or 2525? How do we select this "nifty new high" without relying on a timeframe or a constant value from entry?

Regards
Mowgli
 
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