Lost Opportunity-Tata Motor's NANO out of Singur (West Bengal)

chintan786 · #41 7th October 2008, 10:01 PM

Some Interesting facts regarding all this ......

---tata Motors was set -up in SEZ.. but the land was acquired by WB govt. for them

but in Gujarat the land is sold by Govt. to them.. so no issues in future..

--- In last leg of Singur drama.. Bodhdeb -- ratan tata Meeting strts at 10:00 and ends at 5:30 pm.... WB govt. tried hard.. but tata had made his mind... in press conference he said tht Business can't done under Police Protection.... Although mahindra is going to set up Plant in Wb... and there is no Drama for them there.. surprise..

---- intially there was rumours tht they are going to acquire 500acres of landbut Modi has given then 1100Acres of land.. it may convert to SEZ...it is logically next move for TATA..

-- Gujarat is only Place in India where Neither SEZs nor Retail chains faced any protest from general Public...and have very stable Govt. in state with very weak opposition.

chintan

uasish · #42 8th October 2008, 12:07 AM

Chintan786,

Good Luck,a windfall profit.Thums up to Modi.

Asish

rajaram.dilipkumar · #43 8th October 2008, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pkjha30

Modi has again proved that he has made Gujrat a prime destination for Industry despite his anti-secular credentials . No other state has been able to project this.
pk

Its not good for india if only 3 states keep baging all the major projects.... gujarat has come a long way and will continue to be among one of the top states for industries .... Bombay alone is enough for maharastra as a state to make money but they still have the likes of pune .......just one stretch of road covers plants of ford , nokia , motorola , samsung , saint gobain , mahindra-renault-nissan JV , BMW , hyundai and others in chennai .
Delhi is all politics and companies have their HQ there for name sake but yes we do have delhi-gurgoan-faridabad-noida area which still is much better industrialised than most of the other states in india.
Karnataka has nothing to speak of other than volvo while A.P has had no major industrial development though all the three southern states (barring kerala) have all the software companies you can think of , there is nothing that can generate employment to all classes of people like manufacturing does .
I have not been to other states hence cant comment but i really dont know what other states where doing all these years without claiming these important projects but right now they are fighting like mad for nano. Its likely to take more than one nano project to transform any state and its likely to take more than 3-4 states to develop if we are to be a major force in world map. I think the only way this can happen is by sharing major industrial projects between states and those 3-4 industrialised states should not be allowed to bid for future projects...

pkjha30 · #44 8th October 2008, 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by chintan786

haha... no pankaj i don't have any land here... from last 3 years only resell land is available in this region...... but in the company i am working is Acquiring Huge land to Set up SEZ....will full-fill ur demand after 3-4 months..

Chintan

Well My luck. Better Luck next time.

pk

pkjha30 · #45 8th October 2008, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by rajaram.dilipkumar

Its not good for india if only 3 states keep baging all the major projects.... gujarat has come a long way and will continue to be among one of the top states for industries .... Bombay alone is enough for maharastra as a state to make money but they still have the likes of pune .......just one stretch of road covers plants of ford , nokia , motorola , samsung , saint gobain , mahindra-renault-nissan JV , BMW , hyundai and others in chennai .
Delhi is all politics and companies have their HQ there for name sake but yes we do have delhi-gurgoan-faridabad-noida area which still is much better industrialised than most of the other states in india.
Karnataka has nothing to speak of other than volvo while A.P has had no major industrial development though all the three southern states (barring kerala) have all the software companies you can think of , there is nothing that can generate employment to all classes of people like manufacturing does .
I have not been to other states hence cant comment but i really dont know what other states where doing all these years without claiming these important projects but right now they are fighting like mad for nano. Its likely to take more than one nano project to transform any state and its likely to take more than 3-4 states to develop if we are to be a major force in world map. I think the only way this can happen is by sharing major industrial projects between states and those 3-4 industrialised states should not be allowed to bid for future projects...

I couldn't agree with you more. Its true few states are getting all the pie and rest are left out. But the question is.. Do they really understand or care for development or are they interested only in politicing and making black money at the cost of development.

Take for example Bihar. During first two or three decades , it was most industrialised state with all resources. But where is it now. Nobody thinks of Bihar as Industrial destination. Its mired in corruption, law and order problem and what not. CM is unable to provide leadership and we had Laloo who sucked blood out of Bihar as Vampire.

Why no private Educational trust think of opening Engg or medical colleges in Bihar?? Most of them would open in TN or Karnataka or Maharashtra. Students from Bihar go to these colleges spending fortunes to get Engg degree. Its difficult to do business in Bihar. Unless situation changes and we too get someone like Modi ( We have Sushil Modi from BJP but he is a nincompoop) then only Bihar would hope to get any share.

Similar stories could be about UP, MP, Chattisgarh or Orrisa. Jharkhand had some hope in initial years of forming but then it is all but lost. Look at Himanchal and Uttaranchal , both under BJP have done much better.

Its not that I was fond of BJP earlier or now. It just happens to govern the better governed states and credit goes to state leadership rather than BJP's central Leadership. May be Modi as PM would do wonders for India. I can see Congress and Left squirming in their pants.

But for BJP to truly represent Pan Indian identity has to take into confidence all communities else it will remain branded as communal party.

It is good that states are competing so visibly for industrial development. May be one day, other states may also wake up.

We have a long way to go. One NANO is really not enough.

pk

S S · #46 8th October 2008, 08:54 AM

Hi!

The "Nano" story tells many other things to the people of this country.

Which are the states, where the industrial growth is ..... in a way limited due to too much Political interference, and which are the states, where the Political machinery is using it's fist to try for better Industrial Growth.

Those states, where the central govt has given tax bonanza for setting up the units, are definately NOT a part of this consideration. In Mumbai language, they all are "Kutccha Limboo"

Officials of Tata Motors getting greated by agitating persons at the Hyderabad airport is also NOT good. The political parties doing such and similar things are not only anti-development for that stae, but in a way are also having anti-India view. ...... "Rashtra Drohi" attitude.

I wonder, that instead of killing innocent people, why such people are not made the targets by the terrorists, whose basic war is with the politicians and their decisions. .... unless......?

But I could be wrong

Cheers!
SS

pkjha30 · #47 9th October 2008, 02:06 PM

I was surprised by the ease with which Ratan Tata mingled with both CM , from diametrically opposite sides. That speaks volumes of his political neutrality and integrity. Nobody doubted his actions for a moment. Others would have been butchered for being seen with Modi.

No wonder respect for him only grows.

pk

chintan786 · #48 10th October 2008, 07:40 PM

wants to share one fact with all of u.... recently i visited IFFCo.. they have very big plant Kalol near ahmedabad.... obviouly we pick up topic of NANO.. and he told me tht TATA is going to invest 11000 Crore.... where as IFFCO has already invested 7000 crore and going to pump 5000 crore but there is not a single word abt tht... and so much hype for TATA nano.....

pkjha30 · #49 10th October 2008, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chintan786

wants to share one fact with all of u.... recently i visited IFFCo.. they have very big plant Kalol near ahmedabad.... obviouly we pick up topic of NANO.. and he told me tht TATA is going to invest 11000 Crore.... where as IFFCO has already invested 7000 crore and going to pump 5000 crore but there is not a single word abt tht... and so much hype for TATA nano.....

Ahh , thats how it works chintan. IFFCO is cooperative venture for fertilizer production. Sector_Agri, Subsidy.... and what not. Old fashioned. Not glamorous.

TATA NANO is going to pry open a new niche of Car market, no one dared to so far. hence the hype. It is same when Ford did it and in India Maruti.

pk