Trading Options with Tukka style

Trading options

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DSM

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MonkeyBusiness,

Difficult to post chart for this, as prices are fluid.... So trying to explain the concept. We all know that sideways market means bars forming inside bars. More so, when the prices are in a range between the high and low of the day, especially if it is within the first hour bars. Even if after a break out in either direction, prices come back to within this range of first hour, we can expect prices to meander looking for direction, setting an opportunity for us to trade in the sideways environment meanwhile.

So this is the scenario that we can look for a scalp. If the price is up sideways (as described above) we look to buy puts as they will be cheaper, and expect the next few bars to revert (sideways) down. Add to this, we look to stack up odds in our favor. Say NiftyPE last traded is 61.50, then we would look to buy lower then the last traded price. From experience, a lower price of 200-250 can get triggered. So we can place a limit buy order at 58.50 (Execution at this price will pocket us atleast Rs. 225) Then if we are in the trade, we place a sell order immediately for 3-5 points from 61.50 So we wait for our sell order to be executed at 64.50 netting another 225 points, and a minimal 450 rupees for the trade. What is important, is to have a good risk control, so SL-M should be placed immediately when in trade, so as to ensure that the risk is never more than 250-300 at the max. But in the worst case scenario, (which will be exceptions though) out SL-M will protect us.

Would like to add here, for trading (options), screen time and experience is very important as feel for the market will come only with observations. For example, trading in sideways market close to European market is to be avoided (unless we can gauge the global market sentiments and understand risk) So here's another trick. Google for 'FTSE Open' or 'European Market Open' about half hour before they open for trade. Reuters reports expected open basis spread-betting. :) And we can use this information and it can in infact work in our favor as a trade than a scalp....

So what's important in trading is to create minute edges for yourself. These small edges add up to be able to trade both profitably and with confidence. Trust this helps.

Hi, DSM can you elaborate this, possibly with chart and example.:thumb::thumb::thumb:
 

praveen taneja

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WPI / CPI all seems to be Manipulated, WPI coming down but the vegtables and fruits and cereals, Dall are costlier then how the WPI / CPI coming down...Even Petrol / Diesel price also high...Can anyone please help on this but i believe country is running on manupulation leave aside WPI
 
WPI / CPI all seems to be Manipulated, WPI coming down but the vegtables and fruits and cereals, Dall are costlier then how the WPI / CPI coming down...Even Petrol / Diesel price also high...Can anyone please help on this but i believe country is running on manupulation leave aside WPI
Anyone who does shopping for home knows that everything became more expensive in March. Anyway, it seems that all the government's claims have to be taken with a pinch of salt.
 

monkeybusiness

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MonkeyBusiness,

Difficult to post chart for this, as prices are fluid.... So trying to explain the concept. We all know that sideways market means bars forming inside bars. More so, when the prices are in a range between the high and low of the day, especially if it is within the first hour bars. Even if after a break out in either direction, prices come back to within this range of first hour, we can expect prices to meander looking for direction, setting an opportunity for us to trade in the sideways environment meanwhile.

So this is the scenario that we can look for a scalp. If the price is up sideways (as described above) we look to buy puts as they will be cheaper, and expect the next few bars to revert (sideways) down. Add to this, we look to stack up odds in our favor. Say NiftyPE last traded is 61.50, then we would look to buy lower then the last traded price. From experience, a lower price of 200-250 can get triggered. So we can place a limit buy order at 58.50 (Execution at this price will pocket us atleast Rs. 225) Then if we are in the trade, we place a sell order immediately for 3-5 points from 61.50 So we wait for our sell order to be executed at 64.50 netting another 225 points, and a minimal 450 rupees for the trade. What is important, is to have a good risk control, so SL-M should be placed immediately when in trade, so as to ensure that the risk is never more than 250-300 at the max. But in the worst case scenario, (which will be exceptions though) out SL-M will protect us.

Would like to add here, for trading (options), screen time and experience is very important as feel for the market will come only with observations. For example, trading in sideways market close to European market is to be avoided (unless we can gauge the global market sentiments and understand risk) So here's another trick. Google for 'FTSE Open' or 'European Market Open' about half hour before they open for trade. Reuters reports expected open basis spread-betting. :) And we can use this information and it can in infact work in our favor as a trade than a scalp....

So what's important in trading is to create minute edges for yourself. These small edges add up to be able to trade both profitably and with confidence. Trust this helps.
Thanks Sir,

Trying to understand with Ami bar replay. Taken print out of your reply.:thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb::thumb:
 

praveen taneja

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Derivative Analysis:

"Ball is rolling, immaterial any negative news".

PCR : 1.22
Calls: 4.00 Cr
Puts: 4.91 Cr
VIX: 17.95
SMR : 13.80

# FII bought 631 Cr
FII bought 3 Lacs Nifty + unwind 6 Lacs short.
Net long position.

Retailer unwind 2 Lacs short position.

In April, retailer are playing smartly thn FII.

# FII bought 655 Cr Options.

FII bought 2 Lacs Calls and 8 Lacs Puts.

Retailer unwind 9 Lacs long calls + bought 58 Lacs put.


# Stock future open Int @ 270 Cr shares.

FII bought 1026 Cr in Stk Futures, it indicates, FII unwind short position in stock futures for the tune of 2 Cr shares.

# World market is ignoring all negative news, like,

OPEC meeting in Doha.

Goldman earnings plunges 55%, worst after 2011.

Marc Faber in his today's interview stated:

" You cannot grow economy by just throwing money at people" and that " QE for the people" will be like "Throwing gasoline on a fire".

# Conclusion:

SGX trading near 8000 levels, which is our strong support..

Trading above 8020 for one hour, will force to player who sold 8000 Calls for the tune of 80 Lacs.

Bulls need big push to go above 8020, but in such momentum anything can happen.

Sgx made a high of 8005 and currently trading @ 7990.
 

praveen taneja

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Jai Bholenath,Jai Ram Ji Ki.
Mai aapka bahut bada fan hai,lekin option mere upar se jaate hai.Agar aap aapka method thoda bata dete to bahot meherbaani.
Jai Bhole Baba Ki bhai mera method aap ke naam mein chhupa hua hai:rofl:
I feel expiry below 7777 anybody with me:thumb:
Jai Ram JI KI:clap::clap:
 

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