Is DLF on the way to another SATYAM ?

#11
The market is a great leveller. Those who are long market will make you short. Those who are short, market will make you long.

Here is a list of future Satyams - by CLSA and other allied market rumors.

Allied market rumors

Hedging loss by Mukesh benami trading companies 8-30billion USD - due to future oil contracts purchased at USD 80 - eventually these losses will be transferred to the public listed companies. Who provided the capital to these companies - who gets the gains who gets the losses?

Sterlite hedging loss 23000 crores - good market blow to the Vedic thief who stole shares from peoples demat accounts while SEBI stoob by.

Some extracts from a CLSA report - 15 share to stay away from:-
1. Anantraj Industries:

A North Indian commercial developer, transferred part of one of its
projects (0.52mn sf out of 0.75mn sf in a mall in Delhi) to its wholly
owned subsidiary and consequently showed equivalent revenues in its
standalone results (93% of 1QFY09 revenues).

As against standalone revenues of Rs1.72bn and net profit of Rs1.52bn,
consolidated revenues are Rs104.8m and net profit of Rs77.6m. Out of
the consolidated revenue of Rs104.8m, Rs68.05m (65%) is from the
ceramics business.

2. DLF:

DLFs non-DAL revenues declined 44% QoQ to Rs22.5bn and around 40% of
sales have been to DAL, a group entity. 44% of debtors are DAL and of
total debtors, the share of DAL has increased during the quarter with
DAL receivables increasing by Rs14.5bn QoQ.

During 1QFY09, sales to DAL were Rs15.6bn, which is marginally higher
than the increase in receivables from DAL. We would like to add that
DLFs high level of transactions with group company DAL and high level
of receivables has been a point of debate since it went public.

3. Dr Reddys Labs:

Dr. Reddy's has adjusted mark to market losses on outstanding US$250m
of hedges in balance sheet, while P&L reflects forex gains realised.
The company also reclassified its contract manufacturing business
(CPS) revenues into API and Formulations, which makes it difficult to
analyse its segmental performance.

4. Himatsingka Siede:

Himatsingka in one derivative contract had mark to market losses of US
$41.5m as on March 24, 2008 and no provision has been made since the
company has filed a case in court against the concerned bank. In case
of another derivative contract, mark to market loss of Rs1.58bn as on
30th June has not been provided for since the derivative contract is
still open.

5. HCL Tech:

HCL Tech has normally had a very large hedge position compared to its
revenue base. While the rupee was appreciating, the company reaped
benefits of this and reported US$79.2m in Forex gains in FY07. The
company has always maintained that it would prefer to lock-in a
constant INR/US$ rate through hedging rather than suffer from the
currency volatility.

However, the company unwound US$540m of hedges in Jun-08 and booked
large Forex losses. We find this change in Forex policy surprising and
the company has likely brought forward its potential FY09 FX losses to
4QFY08 through this change in policy.

6. JP Associates:

Jaiprakash Associates did not provide for FX losses on outstanding
FCCBs of US$400m through its P&L and plans to provide for the FX
losses/ gains at the end of the year.

7. Jet Airways:

Jet Airways changed its depreciation policy from WDV to SLM, and
thereby wrote back Rs9.2bn into its P&L, which helped the company to
report profits during the quarter. It also helped Jet to report higher
net worth, which will help in keeping reported gearing low. This is a
one-time exercise. Jet also capitalised Forex loss of Rs6.2bn on Forex
debt and adjusted it against carrying value of fixed assets.

8. Prajay Engineers Syndicate:

Hyderabad based developer, reported a loss in its fourth quarter
results against expectations of a profit. The company "lost" records
for a project worth 40% of its annual revenues at the site office.

The company in its press release said - "After the year end, basic
records relating to sale agreements / revenue and construction
expenses of one of the Projects of property development were lost at
the site office, Vishakhapatnam. The auditors in their report have
stated that they were not able to verify the books and records
relating to income of Rs1437.71m and relevant construction cost of
Rs752.654m. Management is making all efforts to locate/ retrieve the
lost records."

9. Ranbaxy:

Pharma major has mark to market losses of Rs9.09bn on forex derivative
contracts, which have not been provided for because the company
believes "the gain on fair valuation of underlying transactions
against which the derivative transactions were undertaken amount to
Rs10.3bn." This argument is against the principles of conservative
accounting wherein mark to market losses are being offset against
assumed future profits.

10. Reliance Communications:

Telecom Company has adjusted short term quarterly fluctuations in
foreign exchange rates related to liabilities and borrowings to the
carrying cost of fixed assets. The company adjusted Rs1.09bn of
realized and Rs9.55bn of unrealized Forex losses in the above manner.

In addition, the company has not recognised Rs3.99bn of translation
losses on FCCBs, since the FCCBs can potentially get converted,
although the FCCBs are out of money. Adjusted for all the above, the
company would have virtually no profits in 1QFY09.

11. Reliance Industries:

In continuance of its policy, adjusted "foreign currency exchange
differences on amounts borrowed for acquisition of fixed assets, to
the carrying cost of fixed assets…which is at variance to the
treatment prescribed in AS11." Had AS11 been followed, profits for
1QFY09 would have been lower by Rs9.4bn (23% of reported net
profits).

12. Sobha Developers:

South Indian developer changed its accounting norms in 1QFY09 for
revenue recognition which facilitates revenue being recognized earlier
in a project cycle. According to its press release, if the accounting
policy had not been changed, the company's 1QFY09 PBT would have been
lower by 20%.

Excerpts from the company's press release: "With effect from April 01,
2008 the Company has changed its accounting policy for revenue
recognition for sale of undivided share of land (group housing) on the
basis of certain minimum level of collection of dues from the customer
and / or agreement for sale being executed rather than criteria
relating to the project reaching a significant level of completion to
align it with revenue recognition policy for sale of villa plots.

This has been resulted in additional revenue recognition and higher
profit before taxes of Rs321m and Rs150m respectively during the
quarter ended June 30, 2008."

13. Tata Motors:

Company has transferred 24% stake in Tata Automotive Components
(TACO), a company with revenue of US$675 in FY07, to Tata Capital, a
group company, and booked profit of Rs1.1bn in 1QFY09. Management has
declined to disclose the valuation methodology.

Senior management of Tata Motors, in a conference call with analysts,
said, "I would not be able to share with you the specific valuation
methodology, except to say that the things are done by an independent
reputed firm and based on the company's track record and the future
business opportunity."

Tata Motors has also changed its methodology for calculating
provisions for doubtful receivables, which resulted in higher reported
EBITDA to the extent of Rs507m (10% of EBITDA).

14. TCS:

The software major increased its depreciation policy on computers from
2 years to 4 years. As a result, 1QFY09 PBT was higher by an estimated
Rs500m (c.4% of net profit in 1QFY09). TCS follows cash-flow hedge
accounting and till FY08, it used to recognise hedging gains on
effective hedges in its revenue line, thus boosting the reported
revenue growth and EBIT margin.

In FY08, TCS had Rs4.21bn from hedging gains, of which, Rs1.37bn was
included in the revenue line. However, from 1QFY09, TCS will report
all Forex losses/gains below the EBIT line in other income. Thus the
losses it had on its hedge position will no longer be booked in the
operating line.

15. Zee Entertainment:

Media company withdrew its buyback offer "for the time being" without
assigning any other reason. This happened after SEBI made it mandatory
that companies will have to complete the entire buy back within the
stipulated time, if the stock is trading below the maximum buy back
price at the end of the buyback period and the buyback amount has not
been completed.


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sudoku1

Well-Known Member
#13
i dont think so. real esate ll see boom soon
THE GODS MUST B CRAZY


i askeD God .....
he gave me a garden 4 a flower, a forest 4 a tree an ocean for a river,
.........but When I asked for a house,he gave me DLF:D:D.
 
#15
the dlf future is trading at nearly 5% discount to its cash counterpart.

Rarely get to see such huge discount.

Wonder why ?
maybe head honcho is already planning to unload and shorted futures in advance. Who wants to keep 87% when his shares ae going down the tubes?
 
#17
With such a high promoter holding I dont think DLF would go under.
Even with current negative news on the counter like tax scrutiny wrt to under reported sales to save tax in fy 06 and record low profits the counter is already at its all time lows.

Although related party transactions do raise eyebrows, they are a fact of life and present in almost every real estate company and every other listed company. Read This.The financials of all these companies are an eyewash. They can paint what they feel like and as per the price of the stock they want it to be.

If there was something going on at DLF, the KP Singh family would have surely moved out earlier at higher prices.
Also singh family has close ties with congress and considering this they are more or less protected from any political action.

I suspect the promoters are delibrately pulling down the stock price and then accumulating the stock.Remeber the DLF Buyback issue was approved last year and is currently open. DLF does not have any major debtors outstanding and more than half of its debtor is DLF Assets Ltd, another promoter group co. so there is no liquidity crunch here. Only issue is sales outside DAL, which DLF is unable to manipulate (or maybe could - as per IT deptt). The sales are dwindling due to falling real estate market no doubt.

Its a truly trading stock. Traders can make money on this stock bothways.
For investors - stay away. If you can't trust the financials and fundamentals are rocky, you cant ascribe a value to the company, even with nothing going wrong.
 
#18
The Title of this thread is looking wrong I think DLF should be replaced by Educomp.
As far as DLF is concerned I think that the next 2-3 day would be very difficult for this stock and another 30-40% fall may be seen in this stock.DLF will be an excellent buying opportunity after it falls another 30-40% from current levels and I think that will happen.
 

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