CAN YOU MAKE 1 Lac from 30000 Rupees by trading?

[kannamthanam]

Trading in nifty futures.. not only u loose all ur money also all ur capital ...

FUTURES TRADING IS INJORIOUS TO HEALTH

you are absolutely right....if you trade with the belief that trading in futures would result in loss of your trading capital and more.....you are more than likely to confirm your belief if you attempt to trade in futures ....well it is nothing personal about you but a basic tenet in trading psychology the winning trader will have a firm conviction about the ultimate success and losing traders will be so unsure.......well anyway stick to trading whatever is comfortable to you and you have confidence in......but just don't presume that if you cannot do something nobody else can......

 

[rvlv]

Gentlemen

Thanks for your ideas. All I wanted was to see if any worthwhile tips come along.
First thing I havent said about time period-let it Be a reasonable period one month to one year.
COMMENTS

Those tips about futures trading are ok but more loss is a possibility.
Thanks to Amit for his idea.
options are complicated for common investor
metals trading is worth provided you know which way you are going
using illegal means is out of question.

Let me summarise, without adequate capital you get no where.
There is a certain minimum capital required.

Daytrading is alright provided you have
a software system to give signals to buy and sell with risk control
and you have agood broker like indiabulls with brokerage less at 0.03% one way, or others less than that.(dont use 5paisa.com for daytrading-your ship might sink in deep waters)
-----------------------------------------------
what to do?
The real money making is possible if you concentrate on medium to long term trading
techniques

Trendline following trading or
Breakout trading and
Momentum trading.
just two momentum stocks can make your dream a reality.
darvas box is one such thing.
Read my other article on momentum trading with couple of superstocks.

The sum and substance is
Invest in 20% of emerging bluechips which blow the profits out more than 80% of all others.

hOW DO YOU CATCH EMERGING BLUECHIPS?
Let us work on that.
more later

Just a small thing you might like to try.
Use a simple intraday or daily chart say from indiabulls if you are a member.
choose a moving average crossover with 5EMA and 20EMA,using a stochastics
(8,3,3)and then try buying and selling everytime you get signals.
As long as price stays over 5EMA and 20EMA,go on buying. Once price starts dipping below5EMA,GET OUT .Reverse your strategy now on downhill.
Here you cant use stocks but you can use index futures with stoploss.
example see chart of 4oct2006

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=ESCORTS.NS&t=1d&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=e5,e20&a=ss&c=


and

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=ESCORTS.NS&t=3m&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=e5,e20&a=ss&c=

Think as if 20ema is your trendline and if price falls 2% below it you exit or else stay with the trend.

simply remember trend is up if price is above 5ema and does not touch it, and part2 trend is down if price begins to fall below the 5ema,and time to play shortside with stoploss of course slightly below recent low for buying and slightly above recent high for shorting.

stay with trend
That is all you can make what you want over time.

Rvlv

 

[rvlv]

Re: YOU CAN MAKE 1 Lac from 30000 Rupees by trading=USE MSTS

Of course why not?

Investing in momentum stocks is the only real way.
Look here

http://www.indian-shares.com/india-select/nse/nse-breakout.htm

IF YOU WANT THE RULES TO FOLLOW
see it all here

Mark crisp's website

http://www.stressfreetrading.com/index2.shtml
acknowledgement:
Descriptive material below is from Mark's website, with special thanks.

Some of the Core Trading Principles of the Momentum Trading System:

Buy High and Sell Higher.

I can't see how people "claim to make money from buying stocks that are falling. It doesn't seem possible. The money isn't made from guessing but from SEEING and DOING.
The Big Money is in the Big Moves.

Stocks like TASR, TZOO, TIE, HANS and ANTP made over 200% moves AFTER M.S.T.S. got in . . .
Don't stress your-self out with day trading or going for $2 moves swing trading. Why?
Many of my stocks double in a couple of months. And you can as much as your account will allow. You want to make a killing in the stock market?
Stop trading for dimes!
The Fastest Part of Any Trend is in the Final 1/3.

Have you ever noticed that?
Trends usually start slowing and then gather MOMENTUM. time is money. I can never understand why people sit on stocks for years. I like the 2-4 month POWER moves.
Price and Volume is All That Matters in a Stock.
Throw everything else out the window. Fundamentals can be misleading. EVERYTHING is reflected in the price.
Successful Stock Trading Should Not Take More Than 5 Minutes a Day.

Longer than this and you're overdoing it. I personally trade off weekly charts. You can actually "over do it." You must simply run the scan. Chart the stocks. Apply my rules and forget about it. More than this and you seriously risk getting caught up in the B*S* of Wall Street and talked out of a great move! AND, the fun is in having a life away from the markets but making BIG money. Not "working daily" for it.
There Are Certain Stock Characteristics That Separate The Wheat From the Chaff. It's Very Simple IF You Know What To Look For.
Momentum Stock Trading trading does not attempt to predict the market. We couldnt -NO PREDICTION-JUST SEE SIGNALS AND ACT.


Some Additional Points About MY M.S.T.S.

It is a unique momentum system developed by Mark Crisp. It's a hybrid from Livermore and Darvas's work. Price, volume and a few extra's (all revealed in the members area)
It trades US stocks ONLY. Not futures, currencies, FOREX, day trading, etc.. U.S. stocks only.
M.S.T.S. is not a day trading method. I go for the big moves that take 2-5+ months to happen. But nor is it a trend following or buy and hold method. Absolutely ideal for novices and beginners. A simpler method you will struggle to find. You have all the tools and rules you need to find and trade HOT momentum stocks.

see charts

http://www.stressfreetrading.com/volume_break.htm

 

[timtomlee]

Re: YOU CAN MAKE 1 Lac from 30000 Rupees by trading=USE MSTS

Of course why not?

Investing in momentum stocks is the only real way.
Look here

http://www.indian-shares.com/india-select/nse/nse-breakout.htm

IF YOU WANT THE RULES TO FOLLOW
see it all here

Mark crisp's website

http://www.stressfreetrading.com/index2.shtml
acknowledgement:
Descriptive material below is from Mark's website, with special thanks.

Some of the Core Trading Principles of the Momentum Trading System:

Buy High and Sell Higher.

I can't see how people "claim to make money from buying stocks that are falling. It doesn't seem possible. The money isn't made from guessing but from SEEING and DOING.
The Big Money is in the Big Moves.

Stocks like TASR, TZOO, TIE, HANS and ANTP made over 200% moves AFTER M.S.T.S. got in . . .
Don't stress your-self out with day trading or going for $2 moves swing trading. Why?
Many of my stocks double in a couple of months. And you can as much as your account will allow. You want to make a killing in the stock market?
Stop trading for dimes!
The Fastest Part of Any Trend is in the Final 1/3.

Have you ever noticed that?
Trends usually start slowing and then gather MOMENTUM. time is money. I can never understand why people sit on stocks for years. I like the 2-4 month POWER moves.
Price and Volume is All That Matters in a Stock.
Throw everything else out the window. Fundamentals can be misleading. EVERYTHING is reflected in the price.
Successful Stock Trading Should Not Take More Than 5 Minutes a Day.

Longer than this and you're overdoing it. I personally trade off weekly charts. You can actually "over do it." You must simply run the scan. Chart the stocks. Apply my rules and forget about it. More than this and you seriously risk getting caught up in the B*S* of Wall Street and talked out of a great move! AND, the fun is in having a life away from the markets but making BIG money. Not "working daily" for it.
There Are Certain Stock Characteristics That Separate The Wheat From the Chaff. It's Very Simple IF You Know What To Look For.
Momentum Stock Trading trading does not attempt to predict the market. We couldnt -NO PREDICTION-JUST SEE SIGNALS AND ACT.


Some Additional Points About MY M.S.T.S.

It is a unique momentum system developed by Mark Crisp. It's a hybrid from Livermore and Darvas's work. Price, volume and a few extra's (all revealed in the members area)
It trades US stocks ONLY. Not futures, currencies, FOREX, day trading, etc.. U.S. stocks only.
M.S.T.S. is not a day trading method. I go for the big moves that take 2-5+ months to happen. But nor is it a trend following or buy and hold method. Absolutely ideal for novices and beginners. A simpler method you will struggle to find. You have all the tools and rules you need to find and trade HOT momentum stocks.

see charts

http://www.stressfreetrading.com/volume_break.htm

Great going rvlv, keep up the good work.

 

[servant]

CAN YOU MAKE 1 Lac from 30000 Rupees by trading?

As I understand 1 lakh means hundert thousand rupees?

I've just completed a book about a forex system which can do it in two-three months, sometimes longer. I worked on a system with certain characteristics - simplest possible, less stressful and most profitable - even for new to forex.

I'll gladly share all insight - with your little help and effort.

This system comprises three parts:

the main idea
entries,
exits.

Before we start (if you wish, this will be a short course) please launch your charting program and put on a daily chart five moving averages:

5 EMA (green - i will post charts with indicated colours)

13 EMA, 13 SMA, (yellow, red)

60 EMA, 60 SMA. (dark violet, black).

Then see lats 3-4 years of GBP/USD, USD/JPY and EUR/USD (one will do) or your favourite pair.

Observe two things:

1. trends
2. periods of conslidation.

Please answer the questions:

a. how do you spot a consolidation?
b. what is the relation of a consolidation and a trend?

Apologies for my English.

 

[servant]

here is the file with charts and some explanations.

http://rapidshare.com/files/2123364/Consolidations_and_breakouts.zip

it has 0,7 MB

Hope this helps.

Any questions and coments welcome.

 

[HEM]

Gentlemen

Thanks for your ideas. All I wanted was to see if any worthwhile tips come along.
First thing I havent said about time period-let it Be a reasonable period one month to one year.
COMMENTS

Those tips about futures trading are ok but more loss is a possibility.
Thanks to Amit for his idea.
options are complicated for common investor
metals trading is worth provided you know which way you are going
using illegal means is out of question.

Let me summarise, without adequate capital you get no where.
There is a certain minimum capital required.

Daytrading is alright provided you have
a software system to give signals to buy and sell with risk control
and you have agood broker like indiabulls with brokerage less at 0.03% one way, or others less than that.(dont use 5paisa.com for daytrading-your ship might sink in deep waters)
-----------------------------------------------
what to do?
The real money making is possible if you concentrate on medium to long term trading
techniques

Trendline following trading or
Breakout trading and
Momentum trading.
just two momentum stocks can make your dream a reality.
darvas box is one such thing.
Read my other article on momentum trading with couple of superstocks.

The sum and substance is
Invest in 20% of emerging bluechips which blow the profits out more than 80% of all others.

hOW DO YOU CATCH EMERGING BLUECHIPS?
Let us work on that.
more later

Just a small thing you might like to try.
Use a simple intraday or daily chart say from indiabulls if you are a member.
choose a moving average crossover with 5EMA and 20EMA,using a stochastics
(8,3,3)and then try buying and selling everytime you get signals.
As long as price stays over 5EMA and 20EMA,go on buying. Once price starts dipping below5EMA,GET OUT .Reverse your strategy now on downhill.
Here you cant use stocks but you can use index futures with stoploss.
example see chart of 4oct2006

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=ESCORTS.NS&t=1d&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=e5,e20&a=ss&c=


and

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ta?s=ESCORTS.NS&t=3m&l=on&z=l&q=l&p=e5,e20&a=ss&c=

Think as if 20ema is your trendline and if price falls 2% below it you exit or else stay with the trend.

simply remember trend is up if price is above 5ema and does not touch it, and part2 trend is down if price begins to fall below the 5ema,and time to play shortside with stoploss of course slightly below recent low for buying and slightly above recent high for shorting.

stay with trend
That is all you can make what you want over time.

Rvlv

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hi rvlv,
why are you saying,(dont use 5paisa.com for daytrading-your ship might sink in deep waters)
please clarify.

thanks
HEM

 

[stt]

Good Thread Loosing Momentum.
Please Wake Up Someone Is Questioning.

 

[ford7k]

Hi Friend,

Just to answer your question from old rvlv posts
I happened to get this info direct from him long back.

1.5paisa has no auto square off facility and invariably they push you into auction where youend up paying over 10% or more for the 0.50% profit you aim at in daytrading.
2.Their servers can fail and they say your internet failed. can you detect brokers server failure ?
3.when crisis comes they are not in a position to help you, but surely they will ditch you with heavy loss. is a heavy loss the thing you want?
If you go for indiabulls, if you cant handle, their system automatically squares up pending positions leaving no headache for you and for your broker as well.
4.Last THING, Would you like to go with a broker who got no proper staff
to help you out, who make money at your cost by not providing proper system, and make you heavy losses in daytrading because they are not equipped right way?

personally I myself quit trading on 5paisa.com, i know others who got fed up because of the double extra or hidden charging system 5paisa adopts.

YOU FEED YOUR BROKER WITH BUSINESS.
bUT IF HE LIKES TO MAKE A KILL AT YOUR COST, BETTER STAY OUT AND AWAY.
The pity is their customer service or support is equipped with people who cant decide what to do and keep guiding you from wrong pillar to post.

The point is
do you want to do trading or finish your capital?
To do the second part choose 5paisa.com, they will do the rest sooner or later.
ford

 

[hbjcapital]

You can make a try with 5 lakhs in the sharkan PMS. a return of 60 % is expected in these conditions.