A view on commodities

sangram1705

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Crude shoots up on Saudi output cut, U.S. data (Edited excerpt)

http://www.investing.com/news/commodities-news/crude-shoots-up-on-saudi-output-cut,-u.s.-data-314061

(Crude closed at 5,035 on MCX up .46% from previous close. However, internationally, crude is trading higher at 2%+ based on the news that Saudi Arabia has cut its output. In my view, other countries may also go in for a production cut with a view to boost oil prices. But how long the prices will remain up, is a question, as in my opinion crude will be sold into at higher levels.... Unfortunately tomorrow MCX is closed for trading, so an opportunity to trade out of narrow, volatile market is lost tomorrow. We now need to see how crude trades tomorrow and if it can carry forward the gains......)

Investing.com - Oil prices shot up on Thursday on news Saudi Arabia trimmed output in September to support the market, while upbeat U.S. data and earnings boosted prices by stoking hopes for a more robust U.S. recovery.

In the New York Mercantile Exchange, West Texas Intermediate crude oil futures for delivery in December traded up 1.52% at $81.74 a barrel during U.S. trading, up from a session low of $80.06 a barrel and off a high of $82.34 a barrel.

The December contract settled at $80.52 a barrel on Wednesday. Support for the commodity was seen at $79.10 a barrel, last Thursday's low, and resistance at $83.26 a barrel, Tuesday's high. Oil prices got a boost after Saudi Arabia said it cut crude oil production by about 328,000 barrels in September to a total of 9.36 million barrels.

London-traded Brent prices have fallen nearly 26% since June, while WTI futures are down almost 23% from a recent peak of $107.50 in June.
Concerns over weakening global demand combined with indications that the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries will not cut output to support oil markets have weighed on prices in recent weeks.

OPEC oil output hit a two-year high of 31 million barrels per day in September, led by higher production from Iraq and Libya. Some market analysts believe that only a cut in production by the oil cartel will halt the decline in prices.
Oil ministers from the 12-member group are scheduled to meet in Vienna on Nov. 27 to consider whether to adjust their production target for early 2015.
Elsewhere, bullish data out of the U.S. gave oil a boost as well on expectations that a more robust U.S. economy will consume more fuel and energy.


seems currently 81.33$ will hold. jUST WANTED 2 KNOW UR VIEWS ON THIS
 

DSM

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Hi Sangram,

Nice chart. Thanks for posting. On the TF you have posted, it seems like Crude will have support. Here's my view :

* You always have to refer to the chart in the higher TF to see if the support could hold.

* Your chart TF is intraday, which is fine to trade, but if you study it closely, you will find that there are BETTER opportunities to trade on the short side (in sync with the trend, rather than to go long)

* You also need to see the BIGGER PICTURE. Crude is making Lower Highs, so though bounce back (as an intraday trader can be taken, you must be clear about your SL and look to exit at the earliest sign of reversal)

* The important factors are Trend in the higher TF and Pivot Levels and the Price. Just looking at the indicators or individual candlestick pattern can prove costly.

* The above factors and crude price are DEPENDENT on the fundamentals of economics : Demand and Supply. There is low demand and supply glut. So fundamentally, traders are using any spike in price to sell off, as it happened on the news that Saudi Arabia had cut crude output. The 2%+ spike has got sold into.

* On the Weekly and Monthly charts, support levels are much lower.

* Possibility of crude going down another 10% cannot be ruled out.

* As intraday traders, we leave our ANALYSIS and STUDY to take a trade in the direction of the trend and momentum. No sense in sticking to idealogy or analysis in face of 10K+ bounce.

* My 2C, Protect capital and trade safe..... Always.




seems currently 81.33$ will hold. jUST WANTED 2 KNOW UR VIEWS ON THIS
 

Catch22

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Hi Sangram,

Nice chart. Thanks for posting. On the TF you have posted, it seems like Crude will have support. Here's my view :


* The important factors are Trend in the higher TF and Pivot Levels and the Price. Just looking at the indicators or individual candlestick pattern can prove costly.

* My 2C, Protect capital and trade safe..... Always


* My 2C, Protect capital and trade safe..... Always.[/QUOTE]
Thanks a lot for this post :thumb:I would give least thought to money management previously.I was arrogant perhaps .For I would not think of trading in Minis .I'd prefer trading the Big/main lots , as the profits made [I'd presumed ] were quicker .Each time the account size got reduced , would transfer funds to the trading account .Stream-less' flow funds was exciting !! Till the reality of shrunken balance in the account sized down the 'blank dream' . Sat back to do some self inquiry .
Felt I lacked discipline,in handling money , and so decided ,will not draw funds anymore to the trading account ..That forced me to trade in Mini's .Which reduced the excess trading as well as hasty entries.
Understand ,This may not work for all and in certain methods of trading .
 

sangram1705

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Hi Sangram,

Nice chart. Thanks for posting. On the TF you have posted, it seems like Crude will have support. Here's my view :

* You always have to refer to the chart in the higher TF to see if the support could hold.

* Your chart TF is intraday, which is fine to trade, but if you study it closely, you will find that there are BETTER opportunities to trade on the short side (in sync with the trend, rather than to go long)

* You also need to see the BIGGER PICTURE. Crude is making Lower Highs, so though bounce back (as an intraday trader can be taken, you must be clear about your SL and look to exit at the earliest sign of reversal)

* The important factors are Trend in the higher TF and Pivot Levels and the Price. Just looking at the indicators or individual candlestick pattern can prove costly.

* The above factors and crude price are DEPENDENT on the fundamentals of economics : Demand and Supply. There is low demand and supply glut. So fundamentally, traders are using any spike in price to sell off, as it happened on the news that Saudi Arabia had cut crude output. The 2%+ spike has got sold into.

* On the Weekly and Monthly charts, support levels are much lower.

* Possibility of crude going down another 10% cannot be ruled out.

* As intraday traders, we leave our ANALYSIS and STUDY to take a trade in the direction of the trend and momentum. No sense in sticking to idealogy or analysis in face of 10K+ bounce.

* My 2C, Protect capital and trade safe..... Always.
thanks,
it is because of people like you, our thought process will improve from a newbie to pro. I am thankful & also proud to subscribe to ur thread.
 

DSM

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Sangram, Guess you would have got the answer by now. Fed made a statement yesterday for winding up QE stimulus, which is bearish for Gold and Silver fundamentally. But missed acting on this info. as was busy with other trade in F&O. The lesson to learn is that fundamental news+technicals combined together give good trade ideas.

From last few days silver is driving everyone crazy by range bound movement.

any views on this???
 

Catch22

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Moharum 04th Nov. 14 Tuesday Morning session - Closed //
Evening -5pm to 11.55 pm - Open

Guru Nanak Jayanti 06th Nov. 14 Thursday Morning session- Closed //
Evening -5pm to 11.55 pm – Open

http://www.mcxindia.com/marketoperation/tradingsurvaillance/tradingholidays.htm

Due to change in US daylight saving timings, the evening trading hours will be be available till 11.55 pm from November 03, 2014.
 
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sangram1705

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Moharum 04th Nov. 14 Tuesday Morning session - Closed //
Evening -5pm to 11.55 pm - Open

Guru Nanak Jayanti 06th Nov. 14 Thursday Morning session- Closed //
Evening -5pm to 11.55 pm – Open

http://www.mcxindia.com/marketoperation/tradingsurvaillance/tradingholidays.htm

Due to change in US daylight saving timings, the evening trading hours will be be available till 11.55 pm from November 03, 2014.
Has the evening session timing changed from 11:30pm close to 11.55pm close. yesterday I too observed that market was open till 11:55pm. IS there any circular from MCX regarding this??
 

sangram1705

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Any views on silver, looks like 36500-36100 is good level to sell.
On the other hand it also looks like 35800 may offer a good support.


Sorry I couldnot post the charts. Will do it after I get back to home.:confused:
 

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