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No advice.
Just Master Yourself. U r playing with your self. U decide when to enter a trade when to book a profit/Loss. when to play/enter a trade and at your time. so if you want to play this game call trading you decide your rule and stick to it . that is all. trading is a mental game you are playing with yourself. have confidence in your self that you can win the game in long run. dont judge yourself harshly. market only give/take money which we allow.


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@Thread Starter,

CONGRATULATIONS ...... yes You read this right, Congratulations for staying 2 years with only only 1 Lac otherwise I think there would be many traders who have lost that amount in 1 or 2 months. And about your loss there in no trader who would have never lost, yes complete ledger once or twice not uncountable times, by congratulating you i am not encouraging you to keep on loosing but I believe that you will make a better trader yourself. Now you are one step ahead of those who have not experienced this. As you have asked for suggestions I would suggest you.

1. Just forget actual trading for some days, enjoy the life, calm yourself.

2. Try to learn money management.

3. Paper trade 3 months with only 10000/- virtual ledger.

4. After 3 months if your virtual ledger is green only then start real trading with very safe money management.

5. Do not trade for winning or loosing do what should be done and do not what should not. If you do right you will be rewarded and if you make mistake you will be punished instantly or later.

6. Did I say forget those money You have lost. Just remember what you learnt while loosing.

In fact I would encourage you to show your past money management plans. There are so many members who can advise you. and before starting trading discuss your future money management.

I wish you to be a winning trader.
(but please just forget the haste.
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There are many layers of our psychology. namely mind, intellect, memory and ego.
i wont go into details but i would say u have suffered major injuries to all the psychological levels.
U r giving more importance to strategy instead of psychology and risk management.
I sincerely hope that u r aware of the bad psychological state u r in.

U r in a pressure NOT TO Loose 10k. that feeling itself is a big issue.

I would also like to ask what is ur income expectation from 10k.?
Which scrips u would like to trade? MCX fut or NSe stocks ??
Great sir,
man karta hai aapke charno me gir jaoon.(not joking)
I need to learn a lot from you (TRADERJI pls add following people feature so I could be notified )
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Great sir,
man karta hai aapke charno me gir jaoon.(not joking)
I need to learn a lot from you (TRADERJI pls add following people feature so I could be notified )

bhai, charno me girne ki zarurat nahi.
Our life itself is a journey. We chose trading as a career to make our life's journey comfortable.
Its better if we all walk together, spreading knowledge, lending a helping hand if needed, thus making this journey comfortable.

All the Best!
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bhai, charno me girne ki zarurat nahi.
Our life itself is a journey. We chose trading as a career to make our life's journey comfortable.
Its better if we all walk together, spreading knowledge, lending a helping hand if needed, thus making this journey comfortable.

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Commodities like Gold, Crude etc move as per Global market levels. So unless we know
the global trend, we will be in loss most of the time.
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Pls explain your risk management principles u followed since last two years.?
HI vijkris .. for me RR is :-

m risking 100 rs for 200 rs gain , ie. 1:2

Plan -

1} If 1st trade is correct .. will be doing 2nd ..

2} If 3 Consecutive trades are wrong .. I call it a day .
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while you learn your strategy

1) Trade with small size. There is no point in risking capital if you don't have proven record to yourself that you have an edge. Buy sell single digit shares and dont loose your capital. Once you can reach your targets for 4-6 months consistently then look at position sizing rules and scale up

2) Try to practise bar by bar on old data. If you are not profitable here, you probably wont be profitable live

HI tracer Bullet .. my trading since 2yrs ..

1) traded only 1000 shares initially .. but having loss upto 30000. made a cutdown . so basically have been trading 100 - 200 shares since 1 year

2)Try to practise bar by bar on old data .. mean manual backtesting right ? ..
I have done it already ... I gained that paper trading and live is totally different .. I want clarification in strategy ... i mean if suppose 9ema crosses 21ema upward .. should i buy ? ofcourse the theory says that .. when i dont play it my analysis goes correct ... but if I play it then it moves up a little and then reverses .. Always happening to me .. SHould I add another indicator ? BTW not a great fan of any indicators other than Moving Average , SR and Simple VWAP (not its deviation ) after 3 years of market research .. Market profiles good (didnt gave a try though) but dont have ninja and MP plugins also are very costly..
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Get a job. Come back to trading when you have a sizable account.
Meanwhile continue the learning process.

Now why you failed? You tried so many things in a period of
two years. In short, you jumped from one system to another. Sometimes
it takes years to master one method.

All the best.
1) sirji is there any job better than trading ?? 2 yrs now after graduation with 70% .. If i had tried for any job right after college .. i know would have got it .. but i started trading when i was in 10th class..Yes .. not full time but here and there 10-15 trades here and there in a year or so .. this happened mainly during summer vac and monsoon (no school )... but that was pure gambling w/o any market knowledge .. though traded only 5-10 shares which back then 10rs win was equal 10,000 win for me .. then skipped in 12th .. then again started researching and studying in final year college... HOW CAN I LEAVE TRADING SIR .. ITS DEEPLY ATTACHED TO ME ..this is the feeling i am not able to overcome with ..
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@ thread starter
There are many layers of our psychology. namely mind, intellect, memory and ego.
i wont go into details but i would say u have suffered major injuries to all the psychological levels.
U r giving more importance to strategy instead of psychology and risk management.
I sincerely hope that u r aware of the bad psychological state u r in.

U r in a pressure NOT TO Loose 10k. that feeling itself is a big issue.

I would also like to ask what is ur income expectation from 10k.?
Which scrips u would like to trade? MCX fut or NSe stocks ??

U r in a pressure NOT TO Loose 10k. that feeling itself is a big issue.


1] Absolutley correct vijkris !! .. Its big depressive point for me ..

2] for 10k i would expect to make atleast 500 a day if leverage is considered .

3] only nse stocks and 2-3 trading in crudemini after evening

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