Sub-broker question

#1
Hi,

I was wondering if it's possible to register as a sub-broker, but the intention is not to facilitate customer business.

I am more interested in getting cheaper commissions, as I anticipate a high turnover of trading in both the cash and F&O segment.

Can I register personally as a sub-broker and have my company become the "client'? Or just register as a sub-broker and just trade as myself (or is that too blatant?).

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks

Gerard
 
#2
Hi,

I was wondering if it's possible to register as a sub-broker, but the intention is not to facilitate customer business.
sure. as long as you bring in the turnover, it should be fine.

Can I register personally as a sub-broker and have my company become the "client'? Or just register as a sub-broker and just trade as myself (or is that too blatant?).
Start of as an individual sub-broker and then think of going in for company. too many complexities involved in registration of co.
One more thing - if the sub-brokership is in your name and the account you open for trading too is in your name - you don't get any brokerage on it.

Suggest you open trading a/c in someone else's name to reap benefit of brokerage generated by you.
 
#3
Loke4300,

Thanks for the prompt reply. Yes, registering a company in India is big hassle, so I think your advice is sound, re: get another individual to open up the account.

It seems you have a reasonable amount of this experience in this matter -- may I ask a few more questions?

1. For day trading ODIN DIET seems to come up as the best system around -- fast and reliable. Would you agree?

2. I've seen on the forums people asking their brokers for a 3:30pm square off. This does not make sense, since both NSE/BSE officially close at 3:30pm, why would brokers ask you to square off earlier? I can only think of some kind of margining issue here.

3. What would be a reasonable range of commissions main broker would charge their sub-broker both in the F&O segment and cash equities?

4. Is applying via the sub-broker route a way for active traders to receive cheaper commission?, i.e, is this common practice?

I'm sorry for a lot of questions, but I am new to India market, but not new to the market!!

Rgds

Gerard

PS -- I have been trading US futures for many years, if any one has questions -- happy to reciprocate.
 
#4
1. For day trading ODIN DIET seems to come up as the best system around -- fast and reliable. Would you agree?
ODIN is the best bet so far.

2. I've seen on the forums people asking their brokers for a 3:30pm square off. This does not make sense, since both NSE/BSE officially close at 3:30pm, why would brokers ask you to square off earlier? I can only think of some kind of margining issue here.
margin seems to be the concern. I personally don't have this problem. Seniors should add their views here.

3. What would be a reasonable range of commissions main broker would charge their sub-broker both in the F&O segment and cash equities?
TIP:
tell your main broker about your potential turnover - and be ready to bargain on commission. Main broker may offer you slabs/percentage structure etc and may even promise to revise after you achieve a threshold turnover. BUT, try and bargain. My business partner [ex. partner] managed a half paise deal [both ways]! This deal had made him extremely competitive while offering cheaper b'age to his clients and to trade for himself.


4. Is applying via the sub-broker route a way for active traders to receive cheaper commission?, i.e, is this common practice?
No. Who would want to deposit a lump sum amount for sub-brokership just so to trade for oneself on cheaper commission? I'd suggest you check out brokers like - RK Global, Angel etc where you get ODIN and good brokerage rates if you promise turnover.


I have been trading US futures for many years, if any one has questions -- happy to reciprocate.
It'd be nice if you start a thread to share you experience of trading US futures.

Best Wishes.
 

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