commodity trading

megapixel

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#1
I have few queries on commodity trading. I have searched google and did not find answers to my queries.....posting in this beginner's thread ...Can anyone please take a look at it and reply.

Thanks in Advance.

Q1:
see this quote below. Can I infer minimum Gold buy size is 10 Gram i.e 1 lot = 10 gm ?






Q2: What does Volume means in this quote . Can I assume 1,945 x 10 gm Gold contract has been traded today ?

Q3: If I buy 10 gm how much I need to pay upfront initial margin ? is it Last Trading Price or (15 % * Last Trading Price ) ?


Q4: I read precious metals / Energy commodities are traded till night i.e from 10.00 AM to 11.30 PM and also on Saturday 10 - 2 PM ....Is this true ? I'm not sure exchanges are open so late night.
 

praveen taneja

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#2
I have few queries on commodity trading. I have searched google and did not find answers to my queries.....posting in this beginner's thread ...Can anyone please take a look at it and reply.

Thanks in Advance.

Q1:
see this quote below. Can I infer minimum Gold buy size is 10 Gram i.e 1 lot = 10 gm ?




Nope that means Rate is of 10 Grms but lot size is One Grms 100Grms and One Kg
Q2: What does Volume means in this quote . Can I assume 1,945 x 10 gm Gold contract has been traded today ?


1945*100gm
Q3: If I buy 10 gm how much I need to pay upfront initial margin ? is it Last Trading Price or (15 % * Last Trading Price ) ?

If you want to buy 10gm you have to buy 10Petals and have to pay 3210*10=32100*7%=approx 2250
Q4: I read precious metals / Energy commodities are traded till night i.e from 10.00 AM to 11.30 PM and also on Saturday 10 - 2 PM ....Is this true ? I'm not sure exchanges are open so late night.
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Yes mcx trade at that time and commodities mkts run 24*6 whole world so if you start trading keep this in mind that position can reverse in the morning if ant problem happen anywhere in the world:thumb:
 

megapixel

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#3
I have few queries on commodity trading. I have searched google and did not find answers to my queries.....posting in this beginner's thread ...Can anyone please take a look at it and reply.

Thanks in Advance.

Q1:
see this quote below. Can I infer minimum Gold buy size is 10 Gram i.e 1 lot = 10 gm ?




Nope ... that means Rate is of 10 Grms

Rate is of 10 Grms ? you mean 10 grams gold cost = 31875.00 Rs (LTP) ....this looks bit costly.



but lot size is One Grms 100Grms and One Kg


umm ....

Can I buy one gram of this Gold from this quote ? ( I'm asking because lot size is not mentioned in this quote )



Q2: What does Volume means in this quote . Can I assume 1,945 x 10 gm Gold contract has been traded today ?


1945*100gm

why 100 gm ? I mean how do you know the lot size here ? This could be 1 gm or 1kg ....is not it ? Its not mentioned in the quote also.....or its mentioned here in some other way

Q3: If I buy 10 gm how much I need to pay upfront initial margin ? is it Last Trading Price or (15 % * Last Trading Price ) ?

If you want to buy 10gm you have to buy 10Petals and have to pay 3210*10=32100*7%=approx 2250

You know there are many quotes on GOLD commodity ...GOLD quotes , GOLD Petals quote , GOLD Delhi quote , GOLD Ahmedabad quote...etc

How GOLD quote is different than GOLD Delhi quote ? Does GOLD quote is a national quote and others are city specific quote ?




Q4: I read precious metals / Energy commodities are traded till night i.e from 10.00 AM to 11.30 PM and also on Saturday 10 - 2 PM ....Is this true ? I'm not sure exchanges are open so late night.
[/Q

Yes mcx trade at that time and commodities mkts run 24*6 whole world so if you start trading keep this in mind that position can reverse in the morning if ant problem happen anywhere in the world:thumb:

Thanks for the tip.


Hi praveen,

Thanks for the post. I need some clarification on your comments. my comments are in pink in the above
 

sr114

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#4
Thanks for the tip.


Hi praveen,

Thanks for the post. I need some clarification on your comments. my comments are in pink in the above
http://www.mcxindia.com/Uploads/Products/3/Gold February 2013 Contract Onwards.pdf

[ this will clear ur confusion also. never do any half attempted research]

for further research
http://www.mcxindia.com/SitePages/ContractSpecification.aspx?ProductCode=GOLD_M

[ search here and u will get all the product specification - just go thru the products]
 

megapixel

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#5
Have looked at the pdf.

I see it has been mentioned there
Maximum Order Size = 10 Kg.

There is no Minimum Order Size mentioned in GOLD contract....Am I missing something ?


the reason I'm asking is ...by looking at the GOLD quote ...I am unable to understand what is the minimum amount I'm allowed to purchase .

[ I am not talking about GOLD Petals, GOLD guinea , GOLD Delhi , GOLD Ahm etc ...I am talking about only GOLD symbol ]


Other interesting thing I found in that GOLD pdf is ...it says "Ex-Ahmedabad"....Now when I say GOLD quote ....does it refer to the national level GOLD quote ? .... "Ex-Ahmedabad" is foggy.
 

sr114

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#6
Have looked at the pdf.

I see it has been mentioned there
Maximum Order Size = 10 Kg.
but u never looked at the trading units - I Kg
There is no Minimum Order Size mentioned in GOLD contract....Am I missing something ? yes u missed something - u look at the extremes always but nevr in between


the reason I'm asking is ...by looking at the GOLD quote ...I am unable to understand what is the minimum amount I'm allowed to purchase .

[ I am not talking about GOLD Petals, GOLD guinea , GOLD Delhi , GOLD Ahm etc ...I am talking about only GOLD symbol ]


Other interesting thing I found in that GOLD pdf is ...it says "Ex-Ahmedabad"....Now when I say GOLD quote ....does it refer to the national level GOLD quote ? .... "Ex-Ahmedabad" is foggy.
its delivery centre - Ahmadabad and Mumbai - i think its not foggy -

hope that u get ur answer
sr
 

megapixel

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its delivery centre - Ahmadabad and Mumbai - i think its not foggy -

hope that u get ur answer
sr
OK. Thanks. I feel comfortable now.

I guess the quote I posted has the following meaning (Please correct me if I am wrong)

I am allowed to buy minimum size i.e 1 kg of GOLD ....or multiples like 2kg , 3kg , 4kg , 5kg , 6kg , 7kg , 8kg , 9kg and 10 kg ....not more than 10kg

This GOLD has rate 10 gm = 31875.00 Rs. (LTP)

Today this GOLD has been traded and its volume = 1945 x 1 kg = 1945 kg contracts

This is the information I can infer from the Quote.



Now as a trader if I buy minimum size i.e 1 kg Gold ....its lot value is 100 x 31875.00 = 3187500 Rs.

However I don't have to pay full money to acquire position . only I have to pay 5% as Initial Margin...this means I need to pay 3187500 * 5% = 159375 Rs


Hope I'm correct.


Now IF someone still find 1kg of GOLD expensive ....there are other choices one can look at ..like GOLD Petals where lots size is bit smaller and bit cheaper to acquire buy position.


N.B: I'm looking at motilal oswal website for Quotes . and I have downloaded margin excel from indiabull website.
 
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megapixel

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update:

In commodity trading there is a provision in MCX that one can get delivery of the physical item or it could be cash-settled.

my question is when this choice is presented to the client ? Is it during buy order a client has to specify his choice ? Do we specify this when we place our BUY order ?

I would prefer cash-settled definitely.....but I'm not sure where we specify this choice.

Can anyone please throw some light on this ?

I have been searching for this in the net and google and mcx but did not get any concrete answer elsewhere.

Thanks
 

praveen taneja

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#10
Although its for advertisement purpose of ur post but still say its a worst brokerage house and costliest as far as commodity is concern

if you have an a/c close at once if you are an employee search any good job Jai Ram Ji KI
 

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