Coal india for beginners/newbies

#1
Hi,
i m newbie here. plz somebody advice regarding the coal india ipo. i m looking 4 a long term investment.
i dont hv a demat account. will i get a d.account in 1 or two days?
which is d best dp 4 this... icici or reliance ?
i just want to buy coal india n then keep it 4 a long investment...
so can i keep my account without doing trade as i dont knw much about trading at this time.

Experts plz advice

thanks in advance
 
#3
I may suggest you to opt 3 in 1 account with ICICI or HDFC. My understanding is that you need DMAT account but not trading or linked savings account. Try to find out DMAT maintenance charges and accounting opening charges with several firms. I suppose now a days no trading firm charges for opening/maintenance an account with them. You may opt to link your existing savings account with any trading firm in case if you need to buy or sell securities in future.

HTH
 
#4
first you should have pan card to apply for demat account... as it is listing on 18th, you dont have time.... some brokers are renting demat account... try your luck..... a cutting from business standard is posted here.... for your reference...

uday



Brokers rent demat accounts Palak Shah / Mumbai October 16, 2010, 0:18 IST

In the run-up to the Coal India initial public offering (IPO), brokers are offering Rs 500-700 to rent the demat accounts of retail investors not subscribing to the issue. The rent is for the duration of the issue, which opens on Monday and closes four days later.

Sources familiar with the developments said large broking houses, some of which are subsidiaries of investment banks, have asked each sub-broker or agent to hire demat accounts in lots of 25-30. This is in addition to another scheme whereby brokers are guaranteeing a 4 per cent return to retail investors that subscribe to Rs 1-lakh worth of shares on their behalf.


There are over 80,000 sub-brokers across the country and over 10.05 million demat accounts. The scheme is somewhat similar to now infamous Gujarati investor Rupalben Panchals cornering of a large number of shares of various IPOs in 2005 by opening multiple demat accounts.

The modus operandi is as follows: Brokers give an investor whose account they hire the maximum subscription amount of Rs 1 lakh to apply for the IPO, along with the rental. When the shares are listed, the retailer will have to transfer the shares.

The deal is based on trust, and is mostly being played out in small towns. Over the past several weeks, stockbrokers have been helping investors and their family members open demat accounts.

The Coal India IPO roadshows were conducted in small towns and cities long before they were held n Mumbai.

A little over 190 million shares of Coal India are reserved for the retail category and roughly 1-1.5 million investors would be required to fill this quota.

"Allotment of shares will be high in the retail category. In the maximum permissible subscription limit in this category, a retail investor can apply for a little over 400 shares at the upper end of the price band. Considering the large size, even if this category is subscribed two times, each investor will get at least 200 shares," said a sub-broker.

Brokers said that apart from high net worth individuals, a few large institutions are also hoping to corner shares by backing brokers to promote the scheme. "There is huge interest among large foreign institutions and everybody wants a larger slice of the issue," said another Mumbai-based broker.

Institutions are keen on Coal India shares, as the company will become a benchmark stock soon after listing. At the upper end of the Rs 225-245 price band, Coal India's market capitalisation would be over Rs 1.5 lakh crore. This would make it one of the top 10 listed companies in India.

The stock will immediately be included in the Sensex and the Nifty key equity indices of the Bombay Stock Exchange and National Stock Exchange, respectively

source: business standard
 

SavantGarde

Well-Known Member
#5
If you really need to fast track this I suggest you go to Angel or Motilaloswal where they have separate category for demat called IPO demat & moreover they have pulled staff from various departments within the company to work overtime on demat processing....

a) Go directly to the Head office of the broker if possible or their own branches
b) you will not get the postal information in time for you to apply for the IPO but you will only need your Demat Client ID and Depository participants name... which you can get it from the Broker on the phone...for the IPO

In my opinion applying for Demat account with banks will never get done in time

Apart from the brokers mentioned there will be others...you will need to do your own research on this...

In addition you need to be ready with a few passport size photographs, cancelled cheque, copy of Pan Card which needs to be signed by you, in terms of address proof either bank pass book, ration card incase of no bank passbook where you get account statements that will need to be attested by the bank....some banks charge some nominal amount for this


Happy & Safer Investing

SavantGarde
Hi,
i m newbie here. plz somebody advice regarding the coal india ipo. i m looking 4 a long term investment.
i dont hv a demat account. will i get a d.account in 1 or two days?
which is d best dp 4 this... icici or reliance ?
i just want to buy coal india n then keep it 4 a long investment...
so can i keep my account without doing trade as i dont knw much about trading at this time.

Experts plz advice

thanks in advance
 
#6
Thanks a lot experts..
i have pan card
documents r ready 4 opening d demat account.i am 4m a small town so i think there r not many dp here.i m luking 4 reliance money 4 demat account as i found icici a bit costly.

Once again thanks a lot 4 such a great advice.. i ll work on this.
 
#10
interesting article on Coal India IPO...and how the market expecting to react........ (pls look at the highlighted in bold letters)

for the benifit of the members......

Coal India IPO sparks profit-taking
State-owned firm's sale expected to drain funds from secondary market


By Geetha Bhaskaran, Special to Gulf News
Published: 00:00 October 17, 2010


Share prices displayed outside the Bombay Stock Exchange. Data from the Securities and Exchange Board of India showed foreign institutional investors bought shares worth a record $23.4 billion between January 1 and October 14.Image Credit: EPAMumbai: An initial public offering by Coal India, the world's biggest miner of coal, to raise around $3.5 billion (Dh12.8 billion) will be the focus of investors this week. The sale, which opens tomorrow, will be the largest initial public offering (IPO) by an Indian company and is expected to absorb some of the foreign money that has been driving the country's stock market.

Brokers believe the IPO is attractively priced between Rs225 and Rs245 (Dh18.70-Dh20.30) a share and will be heavily subscribed, especially because the state company holds a dominant position in this energy-hungry nation. The firm produced 431 million tonnes of coal in 2009-10, roughly 80 per cent of the country's output.

"We believe that Coal India deserves to trade at premium to global coal prices in supply-deficit environment," brokerage CLSA said, forecasting a one-year forward share value of Rs309-Rs324.

Motilal Oswal, a leading domestic brokerage, set a price target of Rs325 — nearly a third more than the top end of the indicated IPO price band in the monopoly in which the government is selling 631.6 million shares, or a 10 per cent holding.


The sale, which closes on Thursday, will drain investor funds from the secondary market. In anticipation of this, there has been profit-taking. The Sensex fell for the second week in a row last week to 20,125.05 — its lowest close in October after coming within 350 points of a record high of 21,206.77 set on January 10, 2008.

"Large IPOs soak up cash and markets tend to sag afterwards," said equity trader Anand Rathod. "This has been a phenomenon in the past, but I think we'll see a pleasant change now."

A major reason for the optimism stems from the unprecedented amounts of foreign money coming into Indian markets. Data from the Securities and Exchange Board of India showed foreign institutional investors bought shares worth a record $23.4 billion between January 1 and October 14, with more than a third entering the market after August.

US stimulus move

With the US Federal Reserve set to announce further stimulus measures to salvage the world's biggest economy from slipping into another recession, near-zero interest rates in the developed countries are boosting capital flows to emerging markets such as India that is expanding at a fast clip.

The IMG has forecast India's gross domestic product, estimated at $1.3 trillion, would expand 9.7 per cent this year.

Infosys Technologies, which gets about 90 per cent of its sales from overseas, on Friday said it expected full-year revenue to grow 24 to 25 per cent to $5.95-$6 billion, raising the pace of growth from 19 to 21 per cent forecast in July.

The software services company posted 10.2 per cent rise in July-September revenue, the first double-digit quarter-on-quarter gain in three years, indicating the strong demand for outsourcing in an increasingly globalised economy.

Rathod said foreign inflows would maintain the momentum in the near term because of the potential bigger returns in India, and large share sales in the pipeline would only whet the appetite.

State-run firms Power Grid Corp is set to launch a follow-on share for $1.9 billion in mid-November and a month later Steel Authority of India will follow suit for a similar amount. In between, Hindustan Copper will raise $750 million. The government is also considering share sales in Indian Oil Corp and Oil and Natural Gas Corp that could top a combined $5.5 billion.

Deutsche Bank recommended that investors buy mid-cap stocks, saying they were likely to rally in the near term after lagging the big boys.

"While we are enthused by the recent trend of long-term value investors investing in large-cap stocks, we also believe that the underperformance of mid caps cannot continue for long and the anomaly should correct," strategists led by Abhay Laijawala wrote in a note.

Among the recommended stocks were Indiabulls Real Estate and Aban Offshore.

The writer is a journalist based in India.
 

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