already lost 90%!

shobhendra · #91 1st February 2007, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Agilent

Now I know why this thread is rated 5 stars

Someone can write a short story on it (names hidden of course) and make a best seller out of it

Why ... Someone can even make a movie on it (remember that Film Producer from Kerala who wanted to make a movis on Paris Hilton because she said she will not have s** for one yr ... he wanted to portray her as Mother Theresa ! ... wonder what happened)

My oh My ... what entertaining people we have in this nation !

Makes life interesting ... agree ?

AGILENT

Well said SIR
Short story and movie. What am I supposed to do sir, I am just here to share my problem with senior traders, but some think I am hoax and some thought I am beggar.Is this right sir ?
I can post JPEG image of my a/c details if U all like.
Bye

Shobhendra

shobhendra · #92 1st February 2007, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by kgsirasangi

oxusmorouz,
Your calculation is perfectly ok.
This kind of gain is possible in day trading provided we correctly trade a scrip which is in good trend, as shobhendra has done.

shobhendra,
You have chosen the scrips for trade very correctly. Please tell us your methodology of choosing.
Thanks

Dear kgsirasangi Sir
I use few methods, which I learnt from Mr. Rameshraja.
1. IBAR
2. FIB no.
3. 2.30 Factor
and few indicators
like MACD, EMA, and chaikin money flow
I allways track all 154 scrips of FnO, so I check selected scrips at weekends and then decide my best 10.

Shobhendra

oxusmorouz · #93 1st February 2007, 10:04 PM

I'm not sure whom it was targeted at, Agilent

oilman5 · #94 1st February 2007, 10:33 PM

pl. go to
www.logicaltrades.com

a best site to learn
oilman5

swagat86 · #95 1st February 2007, 10:36 PM

this thread is gettin hotter.

Swagat

Agilent · #96 1st February 2007, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by oxusmorouz

I'm not sure whom it was targeted at, Agilent

Oxus ... you got me wrong

I'm not targeting anyone ... but merely trying to put some 'lightness' into this matter (without for a moment ignoring the seriousness of the reality which Sobhendra is facing)

I mean ... here is his story (which I tend to believe) which a few others find so bizzare that they think its fabricated .

There's something to learn from this thread ....

This is a story mixing so many different emotions ... innocence, naivette, ambition, gullibility, greed, avarice, respect, obstinacy, cynicism and patches of delight (see how much he made in one day !)

I'm just admiring the fascinating path which this thread is taking ... like an evolving, suspense drama in real life.

When it is finally over, I'm sure most of us wd have learnt quiite some bit, about the vagaries of the market and some of its victims and victors

AGILENT
Forgive me for being so verbose / emotional ... I got swayed by Vajpayye Ji on the TV in the backgound

CreditViolet · #97 1st February 2007, 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Agilent

CV

Excuse me, but arn't u in the wrong thread...

Maybe.Who knows

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Originally Posted by Agilent

I mean , how is all this going to help our poor friend who is - 90 % (against your easily achievable + 100 % ) ??

Right. What aspect of his trading does he want help with? Fibs,charts? Or should I help him with my trading systems? Do you know how much manhours I have put in to my work? So should I upload all the systems and mail him? Whoever told you trading is a team sport.

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Originally Posted by Agilent

Except maybe to lure him into some more speculative kind of transactions ( which guys like u can handle , but not him) where he loses even more ??

Huh? I am luring him into what? What luring by me are you talking about?

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Originally Posted by Agilent

Pl talk on his wave length ... he is still struggling to learn how to walk, and u are telling him that flying is glorious... and to come take on wings !!
Do u have any concrete advice for him ? If not, at least dont make him feel miserable by emphasising how much superior u all are to him (which no one doubts)

Look, I have been in this business for some time now and I wrote in very simple words what I thought about it and how to approach it. Few on the thread to your surprise perhaps appreciated it. I have tried my best to regard my convictions about trading which I think is more important than recovering money or analyzing fundamentals of a locked up company. There is no more concrete advice I have to give, if people think trading is easy and can be learned overnight, please ignore me and carry on.

Regards
CV

Agilent · #98 2nd February 2007, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by CreditViolet

Maybe.Who knows

Right. What aspect of his trading does he want help with? Fibs,charts? Or should I help him with my trading systems? Do you know how much manhours I have put in to my work? So should I upload all the systems and mail him? Whoever told you trading is a team sport.

Huh? I am luring him into what? What luring by me are you talking about?

Look, I have been in this business for some time now and I wrote in very simple words what I thought about it and how to approach it. Few on the thread to your surprise perhaps appreciated it. I have tried my best to regard my convictions about trading which I think is more important than recovering money or analyzing fundamentals of a locked up company. There is no more concrete advice I have to give, if people think trading is easy and can be learned overnight, please ignore me and carry on.

Regards
CV

Now I think WE are on different wavelengths altogether

Here is a guy who has been speculating (FnO is like that) and has gone nearly bankrupt ... and you are suggesting that he speculate some more (different kind) to recover ?? Do or die, what ?

Instead of moving away to more defensive forms of investing

For heaven's sake.... get the big picture ... and get a bit more conservative pl

By bragging (if subtly) abt yr 100 % gains and all that, you are merely rubbing salt on his wounds ...the immediate advice he needs is on how he can protect his capital in future, and not abt how he can enhance his gains to 100 % (in fact some wd suggest he that he quits the markets altogether, given his already negative equity and enormous vulnerability to any further loss)

AGILENT ( No I shall not eek you)

rkgoyal_98 · #99 2nd February 2007, 12:34 AM

Dear Friends,

Hello

I am totally new to the field and am learning things. There had been good advices in the thread about pyschology. However i feel we are overreacting to each other's opnion about how to handle things. Off course sometime misquote others too.
In my opnion dear CV has not suggested at any stage further trading by our friend But may be some confusion is prevailing regarding comments on some other post.

I will request that letus us acceess the things and analyse whatever each one is suggesting without accusing him/her. In my views there is nothing absokute right or absolute wrong in the market. Things keep on changing and each may be right in his own way due to his/her reasons. So when we analyse we must try to see reasons of that person.

Any way good things for us newbee to learn here
Rajeev

CreditViolet · #**100** 2nd February 2007, 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Agilent

Now I think WE are on different wavelengths altogether

Here is a guy who has been speculating (FnO is like that) and has gone nearly bankrupt ... and you are suggesting that he speculate some more (different kind) to recover ?? Do or die, what ?

Yes, lets blame FnO.Why did the market crash? Bcos of FnO. Why traders lose? Bcos of FnO. Lets for the common good ban FnO.Isnt it the primary reason for all things that go wrong in the market.

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Originally Posted by Agilent

Instead of moving away to more defensive forms of investing

I am not sure what you have been reading. Where did I suggest him or anybody to trade FnO or whatever? Trading is about skill and not instruments.

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Originally Posted by Agilent

For heaven's sake.... get the big picture ... and get a bit more conservative pl

Again I am not sure what you are talking about. Where did I ask him to even trade.

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Originally Posted by Agilent

By bragging (if subtly) abt yr 100 % gains and all that, you are merely rubbing salt on his wounds ...

Again and Again you insist on personal attacks.
He insists on a 900% gain in 4 months but when I say that experienced traders can rake in 100% a month, its bragging and also it might be rubbing him the wrong way.

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Originally Posted by Agilent

the immediate advice he needs is on how he can protect his capital in future, and not abt how he can enhance his gains to 100 % (in fact some wd suggest he that he quits the markets altogether, given his already negative equity and enormous vulnerability to any further loss)

And where did I say otherwise.

CV

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