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Quote:
 Originally Posted by abualfoooz Trading the Volatility Bands if you have it , please share it
this band looks like a fixed set of horizontal lines. volatility band should be like one which changes according to chage on the stock prices. or i am missing something??
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by biyasc this band looks like a fixed set of horizontal lines. volatility band should be like one which changes according to chage on the stock prices. or i am missing something??
You must have come across trading strategies based on Daily pivot and variations like the camarilla pivots.

Here is a strategy to trade on the statistical levels of volatility. The volatility values for a particular day are calculated. Based on these volatility values bands are calculated for different standard deviations 0.25, 0.5, 1.0, 1.28, 1.5, 2.0, 2.5

This is based on the assumption that volatility reverts to the mean and the price also seeks a equilibrium value. As per statistics the probability of the price being contained within a certain standard deviation band is as follow.

STDDEV PROBABILITY
1.00 – 68%
1.28 – 80%
1.50 – 88%
2.00 – 95%

You will observe that the prices tend to reverse at the extremes of these bands. The probability of a price reversal at the one standard deviation band is 68% and the probability of reversal at the 1.28 bands is 80% and so on. These probability bands provide a good method for intraday traders.

One can go long when the price crosses a particular band keeping the band value itself as a stop loss. When the price crosses the next band raise the stop loss thereby locking the profit. When the price stalls at a particular band unable to cross it is time to close your position and be ready to go on the reverse trade.

This strategy based on the volatility bands provides good high probability trades.
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up >>>>> plz
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I think the bands are created based on the average Volatility of past few days and not the intraday volatality.

Pls share the AFL.

TIA.
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Here you go

--- Begin cut ---

/*
You must have come across trading strategies based on Daily pivot and variations like the camarilla pivots.

Here is a strategy to trade on the statistical levels of volatility. The volatility values for a particular
day are calculated. Based on these volatility values bands are calculated for different standard deviations
0.25, 0.5, 1.0, 1.28, 1.5, 2.0, 2.5

This is based on the assumption that volatility reverts to the mean and the price also seeks a equilibrium
value. As per statistics the probability of the price being contained within a certain standard deviation
band is as follow.

STDDEV PROBABILITY
1.00 – 68%
1.28 – 80%
1.50 – 88%
2.00 – 95%

You will observe that the prices tend to reverse at the extremes of these bands. The probability of a price
reversal at the one standard deviation band is 68% and the probability of reversal at the 1.28 bands is 80%
and so on. These probability bands provide a good method for intraday traders.

One can go long when the price crosses a particular band keeping the band value itself as a stop loss. When
the price crosses the next band raise the stop loss thereby locking the profit. When the price stalls at a
particular band unable to cross it is time to close your position and be ready to go on the reverse trade.

This strategy based on the volatility bands provides good high probability trades.
*/
_SECTION_BEGIN("Volatility Bands V.1.0");
SetChartOptions(0,chartShowArrows|chartShowDates);
gxs=Param("GRAPH spaceing",10,5,50,5);
GraphXSpace = gxs;
SetChartBkColor(ParamColor("Outer panel color ",colorGrey50));
SetChartBkGradientFill( ParamColor("Inner panel color upper half",colorGrey40),
ParamColor("Inner panel color lower half",colorDarkOliveGreen));

Periods = Param("Periods", 10, 2, 100, 1 );

VFH=Param("YH",0.01571,-0.1,0.10,0.00001);
VFL=Param("YL",0.01361,-0.1,0.10,0.00001);

P1 = TimeFrameGetPrice( "C", inDaily, -1 );
T1a = P1+(P1*0.5*VfH);
T1b = P1+(P1*0.5*VfL);
B1a = P1-(P1*0.5*VfH);
B1b = P1-(P1*0.5*VfL);

T2a = P1+(P1*1*VfH);
T2b = P1+(P1*1*VfL);
B2a = P1-(P1*1*VfH);
B2b = P1-(P1*1*VfL);

T3 = P1+(P1*1.28*VfH);
B3 = P1-(P1*1.28*VfL);

T4 = P1+(P1*1.5*VfH);
B4 = P1-(P1*1.5*VfL);

T5 = P1+(P1*2*VfH);
B5 = P1-(P1*2*VfL);

T6 = P1+(P1*2.5*VfH);
B6 = P1-(P1*2.5*VfL);

T7 = P1+(P1*3*VfH);
B7 = P1-(P1*3*VfL);

T8a = P1+(P1*0.25*VfH);
T8b = P1+(P1*0.25*VfL);
B8a = P1-(P1*0.25*VfH);
B8b = P1-(P1*0.25*VfL);

Cb=ParamToggle("0.25 ","NO|YES" ,0);
Cb1=ParamToggle("0.50 ","NO|YES" ,0);
Cb2=ParamToggle("1.0 ","NO|YES" ,0);
Cb3=ParamToggle("1.28 ","NO|YES" ,1);
Cb4=ParamToggle("1.50 ","NO|YES" ,0);
Cb5=ParamToggle("2.0 ","NO|YES" ,0);
Cb6=ParamToggle("2.50 ","NO|YES" ,0);
if(Cb==1){
Plot( T8A,"",colorYellow, 32|styleNoLabel );
Plot( B8A,"",colorYellow, 32|styleNoLabel );
}if(Cb1==1){
Plot( T1a,"",3, 32|styleNoLabel );
Plot( B1a,"",3, 32|styleNoLabel );
}if(Cb2==1){
Plot( T2a,"", colorOrange, 4|styleNoLabel );
Plot( B2a,"", colorOrange, 4|styleNoLabel );
}if(Cb3==1){
Plot( T3,"",colorGreen, 32|styleNoLabel );
Plot( B3,"",colorGreen, 32 |styleNoLabel);
}if(Cb4==1){
Plot( T4,"", colorLime, 1|styleNoLabel );
Plot( B4,"", colorLime, 1|styleNoLabel );
}if(Cb5==1){
Plot( T5,"", colorOrange, 32|styleNoLabel );
Plot( B5,"", colorOrange, 32|styleNoLabel );
}if(Cb6==1){
Plot( T6,"", colorLightOrange, 1|styleNoLabel );
Plot( B6,"", colorLightOrange, 1|styleNoLabel );
}
HaClose=C ;
Plot(C,"",47,64);
PlotOHLC( Null, t1a, t1b, Null, "", colorGrey40, styleCloud);
PlotOHLC( Null, b1a, b1b, Null, "", colorGrey40, styleCloud);
PlotOHLC( Null, t8a, t8b, Null, "", colorLightYellow, styleCloud);
PlotOHLC( Null, b8a, b8b, Null, "", colorLightYellow, styleCloud);
PlotOHLC( Null, t2a, t2b, Null, "", colorTan, styleCloud);
PlotOHLC( Null, b2a, b2b, Null, "", colorTan, styleCloud);

up=(Cross(HaClose,t8a)OR Cross(HaClose,t1a)OR Cross(HaClose,t2a) OR Cross(HaClose,t3)OR Cross(HaClose,t4)OR Cross(HaClose,t5))
OR Cross(Haclose,b8b) OR Cross(Haclose,b1b) OR Cross(Haclose,b2b) OR Cross(Haclose,b3) OR Cross(Haclose,b4) OR Cross(Haclose,b5);
dn=Cross(b8a,HaClose)OR Cross( b1a,HaClose)OR Cross( b2a,HaClose)OR Cross(b3,HaClose)OR Cross( b4,HaClose)OR Cross( b5,HaClose)
OR Cross(t8b,HaClose)OR Cross( t1b,HaClose)OR Cross( t2b,HaClose)OR Cross(t3,HaClose)OR Cross( t4,HaClose)OR Cross( t5,HaClose);

//up=ExRem(up,dn);
//dn=ExRem(dn,up);

if(Cb7==1){
PlotShapes( IIf( up, shapeUpArrow, shapeNone ),10,0,L,-10 );
PlotShapes( IIf( dn, shapeDownArrow, shapeNone ),13,0,H,-10 );}

C13=Param("fonts",20,10,30,1 );
C14=Param("left-right",2.1,1.0,5.0,0.1 );
C15=Param("up-down",7,1,10,1 );
Version( 5.04 ); // requires 5.04 or higher
GfxSetOverlayMode( 0 );
CellHeight = 18;
CellWidth = 50;
GfxSelectFont( "Tahoma", CellHeight/2 );
GfxSetBkColor(colorGold) ;
GfxSetBkMode( 2 ) ;
function PrintInCell( string, row, Col )
{
GfxDrawText( string, Col * CellWidth, row * CellHeight, (Col + 1 ) * CellWidth, (row + 1 ) * CellHeight, 0 );
}
PrintInCell( " +2.5 ", 0, 0 );
PrintInCell( " +2.0 ", 0, 1 );
PrintInCell( " +1.5 ", 0, 2 );
PrintInCell( " +1.0 ", 0, 3 );
PrintInCell( " +0.50 ", 0, 4 );
PrintInCell( " +0.25 ", 0, 5 );
PrintInCell( " -0.25 ", 0, 7 );
PrintInCell( " -0.50 ", 0, 8 );
PrintInCell( " -1.0 ", 0, 9 );
PrintInCell( " -1.50 ", 0, 10 );
PrintInCell( " -2.0 ", 0, 11 );
PrintInCell( " -2.5 ", 0, 12 );
GfxSelectPen( colorRed );
for( i = 1; i < 2 && i < BarCount; i++ )
{
GfxSetBkColor(27);
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t6) ), i, 0 );
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t5) ), i, 1 );
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t4) ), i, 2 );
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t2a) ), i, 3 );
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t1a) ), i, 4 );
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t8a) ), i, 5 );
GfxSetBkColor(33);
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b8a) ), i, 7 );
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b1a) ), i, 8 );
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b2a) ), i, 9 );
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b4) ), i, 10 );
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b5) ), i, 11 );
PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b6) ), i, 12 );
GfxMoveTo( 0, i * CellHeight );
GfxLineTo( 13 * CellWidth, i * CellHeight );
}
GfxMoveTo( 0, i * CellHeight );
GfxLineTo( 13 * CellWidth, i * CellHeight );
for( Col = 0; Col < 14; Col++ )
{
GfxMoveTo( Col * CellWidth, 0);
GfxLineTo( Col * CellWidth, 2 * CellHeight );
}

pxwidth = Status("pxwidth");
pxheight = Status("pxheight");
GfxSetBkMode( 0);
GfxSelectFont("Tahoma", Status("pxheight")/C13 );
GfxSetTextAlign( 6 );
GfxSetTextColor( 47 );

GfxSelectFont("Tahoma", Status("pxheight")/C13*0.5 );
GfxTextOut( "Vol-Bands", Status("pxwidth")/C14, Status("pxheight")/C15*2.5 );
GfxSelectFont("Tahoma", Status("pxheight")/C13*0.5 );
Title =EncodeColor(colorWhite)+ "" + " +\n\n\n " + Name() + EncodeColor(colorRed)+ Interval(2) + EncodeColor(colorWhite) +
" - " + Date() +" - "+"\n" +EncodeColor(colorYellow) +"Op-"+O+" "+"Hi-"+H+" "+"Lo-"+L+" "+
"Cl-"+C+" "+ "Vol= "+ WriteVal(V);
NewDay = Day() != Ref( Day(), -1 );
Plot( NewDay, "", 31, styleDashed | styleOwnScale | styleNoLabel | styleLine | styleHistogram );
_SECTION_END();

--- End cut ---

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Bonkers

thank you
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it is too much bye sell signal !!!!!!!
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Quote:
 Originally Posted by Bonkers Here you go --- Begin cut --- /* You must have come across trading strategies based on Daily pivot and variations like the camarilla pivots. Here is a strategy to trade on the statistical levels of volatility. The volatility values for a particular day are calculated. Based on these volatility values bands are calculated for different standard deviations 0.25, 0.5, 1.0, 1.28, 1.5, 2.0, 2.5 This is based on the assumption that volatility reverts to the mean and the price also seeks a equilibrium value. As per statistics the probability of the price being contained within a certain standard deviation band is as follow. STDDEV PROBABILITY 1.00 – 68% 1.28 – 80% 1.50 – 88% 2.00 – 95% You will observe that the prices tend to reverse at the extremes of these bands. The probability of a price reversal at the one standard deviation band is 68% and the probability of reversal at the 1.28 bands is 80% and so on. These probability bands provide a good method for intraday traders. One can go long when the price crosses a particular band keeping the band value itself as a stop loss. When the price crosses the next band raise the stop loss thereby locking the profit. When the price stalls at a particular band unable to cross it is time to close your position and be ready to go on the reverse trade. This strategy based on the volatility bands provides good high probability trades. */ _SECTION_BEGIN("Volatility Bands V.1.0"); SetChartOptions(0,chartShowArrows|chartShowDates); gxs=Param("GRAPH spaceing",10,5,50,5); GraphXSpace = gxs; SetChartBkColor(ParamColor("Outer panel color ",colorGrey50)); SetChartBkGradientFill( ParamColor("Inner panel color upper half",colorGrey40), ParamColor("Inner panel color lower half",colorDarkOliveGreen)); Periods = Param("Periods", 10, 2, 100, 1 ); VFH=Param("YH",0.01571,-0.1,0.10,0.00001); VFL=Param("YL",0.01361,-0.1,0.10,0.00001); P1 = TimeFrameGetPrice( "C", inDaily, -1 ); T1a = P1+(P1*0.5*VfH); T1b = P1+(P1*0.5*VfL); B1a = P1-(P1*0.5*VfH); B1b = P1-(P1*0.5*VfL); T2a = P1+(P1*1*VfH); T2b = P1+(P1*1*VfL); B2a = P1-(P1*1*VfH); B2b = P1-(P1*1*VfL); T3 = P1+(P1*1.28*VfH); B3 = P1-(P1*1.28*VfL); T4 = P1+(P1*1.5*VfH); B4 = P1-(P1*1.5*VfL); T5 = P1+(P1*2*VfH); B5 = P1-(P1*2*VfL); T6 = P1+(P1*2.5*VfH); B6 = P1-(P1*2.5*VfL); T7 = P1+(P1*3*VfH); B7 = P1-(P1*3*VfL); T8a = P1+(P1*0.25*VfH); T8b = P1+(P1*0.25*VfL); B8a = P1-(P1*0.25*VfH); B8b = P1-(P1*0.25*VfL); Cb=ParamToggle("0.25 ","NO|YES" ,0); Cb1=ParamToggle("0.50 ","NO|YES" ,0); Cb2=ParamToggle("1.0 ","NO|YES" ,0); Cb3=ParamToggle("1.28 ","NO|YES" ,1); Cb4=ParamToggle("1.50 ","NO|YES" ,0); Cb5=ParamToggle("2.0 ","NO|YES" ,0); Cb6=ParamToggle("2.50 ","NO|YES" ,0); Cb7=ParamToggle("Alerts","NO|YES" ,1); if(Cb==1){ Plot( T8A,"",colorYellow, 32|styleNoLabel ); Plot( B8A,"",colorYellow, 32|styleNoLabel ); }if(Cb1==1){ Plot( T1a,"",3, 32|styleNoLabel ); Plot( B1a,"",3, 32|styleNoLabel ); }if(Cb2==1){ Plot( T2a,"", colorOrange, 4|styleNoLabel ); Plot( B2a,"", colorOrange, 4|styleNoLabel ); }if(Cb3==1){ Plot( T3,"",colorGreen, 32|styleNoLabel ); Plot( B3,"",colorGreen, 32 |styleNoLabel); }if(Cb4==1){ Plot( T4,"", colorLime, 1|styleNoLabel ); Plot( B4,"", colorLime, 1|styleNoLabel ); }if(Cb5==1){ Plot( T5,"", colorOrange, 32|styleNoLabel ); Plot( B5,"", colorOrange, 32|styleNoLabel ); }if(Cb6==1){ Plot( T6,"", colorLightOrange, 1|styleNoLabel ); Plot( B6,"", colorLightOrange, 1|styleNoLabel ); } HaClose=C ; Plot(C,"",47,64); PlotOHLC( Null, t1a, t1b, Null, "", colorGrey40, styleCloud); PlotOHLC( Null, b1a, b1b, Null, "", colorGrey40, styleCloud); PlotOHLC( Null, t8a, t8b, Null, "", colorLightYellow, styleCloud); PlotOHLC( Null, b8a, b8b, Null, "", colorLightYellow, styleCloud); PlotOHLC( Null, t2a, t2b, Null, "", colorTan, styleCloud); PlotOHLC( Null, b2a, b2b, Null, "", colorTan, styleCloud); up=(Cross(HaClose,t8a)OR Cross(HaClose,t1a)OR Cross(HaClose,t2a) OR Cross(HaClose,t3)OR Cross(HaClose,t4)OR Cross(HaClose,t5)) OR Cross(Haclose,b8b) OR Cross(Haclose,b1b) OR Cross(Haclose,b2b) OR Cross(Haclose,b3) OR Cross(Haclose,b4) OR Cross(Haclose,b5); dn=Cross(b8a,HaClose)OR Cross( b1a,HaClose)OR Cross( b2a,HaClose)OR Cross(b3,HaClose)OR Cross( b4,HaClose)OR Cross( b5,HaClose) OR Cross(t8b,HaClose)OR Cross( t1b,HaClose)OR Cross( t2b,HaClose)OR Cross(t3,HaClose)OR Cross( t4,HaClose)OR Cross( t5,HaClose); //up=ExRem(up,dn); //dn=ExRem(dn,up); if(Cb7==1){ PlotShapes( IIf( up, shapeUpArrow, shapeNone ),10,0,L,-10 ); PlotShapes( IIf( dn, shapeDownArrow, shapeNone ),13,0,H,-10 );} C13=Param("fonts",20,10,30,1 ); C14=Param("left-right",2.1,1.0,5.0,0.1 ); C15=Param("up-down",7,1,10,1 ); Version( 5.04 ); // requires 5.04 or higher GfxSetOverlayMode( 0 ); CellHeight = 18; CellWidth = 50; GfxSelectFont( "Tahoma", CellHeight/2 ); GfxSetBkColor(colorGold) ; GfxSetBkMode( 2 ) ; function PrintInCell( string, row, Col ) { GfxDrawText( string, Col * CellWidth, row * CellHeight, (Col + 1 ) * CellWidth, (row + 1 ) * CellHeight, 0 ); } PrintInCell( " +2.5 ", 0, 0 ); PrintInCell( " +2.0 ", 0, 1 ); PrintInCell( " +1.5 ", 0, 2 ); PrintInCell( " +1.0 ", 0, 3 ); PrintInCell( " +0.50 ", 0, 4 ); PrintInCell( " +0.25 ", 0, 5 ); PrintInCell( " -0.25 ", 0, 7 ); PrintInCell( " -0.50 ", 0, 8 ); PrintInCell( " -1.0 ", 0, 9 ); PrintInCell( " -1.50 ", 0, 10 ); PrintInCell( " -2.0 ", 0, 11 ); PrintInCell( " -2.5 ", 0, 12 ); GfxSelectPen( colorRed ); for( i = 1; i < 2 && i < BarCount; i++ ) { GfxSetBkColor(27); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t6) ), i, 0 ); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t5) ), i, 1 ); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t4) ), i, 2 ); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t2a) ), i, 3 ); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t1a) ), i, 4 ); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(t8a) ), i, 5 ); GfxSetBkColor(33); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b8a) ), i, 7 ); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b1a) ), i, 8 ); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b2a) ), i, 9 ); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b4) ), i, 10 ); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b5) ), i, 11 ); PrintInCell( StrFormat(" %g ", LastValue(b6) ), i, 12 ); GfxMoveTo( 0, i * CellHeight ); GfxLineTo( 13 * CellWidth, i * CellHeight ); } GfxMoveTo( 0, i * CellHeight ); GfxLineTo( 13 * CellWidth, i * CellHeight ); for( Col = 0; Col < 14; Col++ ) { GfxMoveTo( Col * CellWidth, 0); GfxLineTo( Col * CellWidth, 2 * CellHeight ); } pxwidth = Status("pxwidth"); pxheight = Status("pxheight"); GfxSetBkMode( 0); GfxSelectFont("Tahoma", Status("pxheight")/C13 ); GfxSetTextAlign( 6 ); GfxSetTextColor( 47 ); GfxSelectFont("Tahoma", Status("pxheight")/C13*0.5 ); GfxTextOut( "Vol-Bands", Status("pxwidth")/C14, Status("pxheight")/C15*2.5 ); GfxSelectFont("Tahoma", Status("pxheight")/C13*0.5 ); Title =EncodeColor(colorWhite)+ "" + " +\n\n\n " + Name() + EncodeColor(colorRed)+ Interval(2) + EncodeColor(colorWhite) + " - " + Date() +" - "+"\n" +EncodeColor(colorYellow) +"Op-"+O+" "+"Hi-"+H+" "+"Lo-"+L+" "+ "Cl-"+C+" "+ "Vol= "+ WriteVal(V); NewDay = Day() != Ref( Day(), -1 ); Plot( NewDay, "", 31, styleDashed | styleOwnScale | styleNoLabel | styleLine | styleHistogram ); _SECTION_END(); --- End cut --- Regards

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