Systems for three market types- trending, nontrending, volatile

suri112000

Well-Known Member
#11
some time it reverse also. We can say after break point 2 than also ot goes below bar 3.
Price must go below point 1 to invalidate the setup. Usually we keep our Stop Loss below point 3 which often gets hit and the price moves in the direction of trade without us.

I have not talked about Stop Loss and Profit Target yet. I am trying to establish that this setup occurs in our markets also. Daily trading range for the past 7 days is to be calculated in order to arrive at Stop Loss and Profit Target. It takes time before I touch those topics.
 

suri112000

Well-Known Member
#12
What we have to learn.

No man or system on earth can ever predict future course of market. If someone tells you beware of them.

Simplicity is the key. Complicated systems are probably trying to baffle you into parting your hard earned money and baffles brains as well.

We are aware that systems have three important components.

1. Trade Entry/Exit Rules.
2. Money Management.
3. Trader Psychology.

Ask the traders to put them in order of preference. 95% of traders put them in above order.

The correct order should be:-

1. Trader Psychology. Most traders are sucked into trading with an intent of getting rich quick or wish to make money in the markets with no effort. Then they wonder why their account is sinking faster than Titanic. They jump into markets with little or no knowledge of market dynamics and expect to compete with big wigs. If you enter into stock market with no education you are treating it as a gamble. If you gain required education, test it, and adopt it to the market dynamics, then you are treating it as business. Guess who makes money? Gamblers or business people? Choice is yours. It is no different with stock markets.

2. Money Management. We could trade solely on money management rules and come out ahead. We should spend most of our time in honing the skills in this area. It helps to adopt business like approach to the trading. It is no surprise our life and trading improves dramatically.

3. Trade System. It is always better to have simple systems which we understand and implement. They may require little tweaks now and then. There is no holy grail, if it does donot tell me! I donot want to waste my time in search of holy grails any more.
 
#13
What we have to learn.

No man or system on earth can ever predict future course of market. If someone tells you beware of them.

Simplicity is the key. Complicated systems are probably trying to baffle you into parting your hard earned money and baffles brains as well.

We are aware that systems have three important components.

1. Trade Entry/Exit Rules.
2. Money Management.
3. Trader Psychology.

Ask the traders to put them in order of preference. 95% of traders put them in above order.

The correct order should be:-

1. Trader Psychology. Most traders are sucked into trading with an intent of getting rich quick or wish to make money in the markets with no effort. Then they wonder why their account is sinking faster than Titanic. They jump into markets with little or no knowledge of market dynamics and expect to compete with big wigs. If you enter into stock market with no education you are treating it as a gamble. If you gain required education, test it, and adopt it to the market dynamics, then you are treating it as business. Guess who makes money? Gamblers or business people? Choice is yours. It is no different with stock markets.

2. Money Management. We could trade solely on money management rules and come out ahead. We should spend most of our time in honing the skills in this area. It helps to adopt business like approach to the trading. It is no surprise our life and trading improves dramatically.

3. Trade System. It is always better to have simple systems which we understand and implement. They may require little tweaks now and then. There is no holy grail, if it does donot tell me! I donot want to waste my time in search of holy grails any more.
Dear Suri Ji,

You hit the nail today...I don't know about others, but as far as me concern, I follow the same route which you had mentioned Search for System (Entry/Exit)------> Try to adjust my Psychology as per grid and fear ------> and then tries to manage Money.....

We need to learn discipline our self first...

Good Going ...Keep it up..
 

gkpc

Well-Known Member
#14
This system or similar had been discussed before. And I believe its much simpler to find the 1-2-3 set up after we can see the right side and much more tedious in Real Time. And my believe is based on my own observation.
I vaguely remember some Member here has the Original write up by Mark Crisp. It can be helpful to those who are interested if it can be shared here.
 

Xitij

Active Member
#16
This system or similar had been discussed before. And I believe its much simpler to find the 1-2-3 set up after we can see the right side and much more tedious in Real Time. And my believe is based on my own observation.
I vaguely remember some Member here has the Original write up by Mark Crisp. It can be helpful to those who are interested if it can be shared here.
I was told that rkkarnani has the original strategy of Crisp. rkkarnani do not seem to be much active here. Did pm him. Anyone knows his email address.
 

suri112000

Well-Known Member
#18
Sell setup in the reverse order of buy setup.

1 makes a new high

2 and 3 follows.



One of the member has pointed out that it is tough to figure out 1-2-3 setup on real time charts. My openion is that it is the same with static charts also until we train our eye. If you donot believe, try the following chart.

 

Similar threads