New Approch To trade in nifty future using daily volatility

#1
Over the years the Indian traders have realized that profiting in the nifty future trading is one of the best bet. However it is quite experienced that many day traders never make any success in nifty intraday trade. Learning little simplest technique can make some one a winner in the nifty intraday trading. I am going to narrate one most important and the simplest principle and trick for nifty intraday traders.

Interpret the daily volatility. It is the parameter which will gives you the most likely move the nifty future can swing in a day. In this case the term ‘swing’ means high and low difference in a day. Then the next question is how to find the volatility. In my book on Futures and options I have given the simplest method to find the volatility using the logarithmic mathematical procedure. If you do not have the book or you do not wish to calculate the volatility then the other procedure left out is refer the daily volatility column given in the NSE site against the Nifty future f &o quote section. You may get a figure 1.23 for 9th October 2009 price quote in the bottom of the page. In other words it says the nifty future has the potentiality to generate 1.23% returns today either in the buy side or in sell side. For example if nifty is trading at 5000 it will generate 5000X1.23%=61.50 point return. This small arithmetic information is sufficient enough for me to take a wise trade decision.

Now it is the time to migrate to a more realistic example. On 9th October 2009 at 10:45 a.m. I found the nifty at 4999. At that time the prior swing has recorded high 5021 and low was 4973 and the daily volatility was 1.23%. The previous days’ closing was 5001. Since the daily volatility is a derivation from the yearly volatility I will calculate the return points from the previous days closing which is 5001X1.23%=61.5123 round it to 62 points. The next big thing I can do is I will take the clue from the mid point of high and low of the current day. As per my data the mid point is 4997( i.e.(5021+4973)/2). As per the recorded data the nifty high and low has created a swing of 48 points (i.e.5021-4973). My current price 4999suggest I am just above the midpoint (hence I have a chance to scale 62-26=36 point from here in upside or 26 point down from here to complete the calculated return of 62 points. The 26 points the difference between the low and the current price).

Now the last job is to derive a trade decision. Here the concept of cycle will get focused since my return is 62 points as per the volatility and every completion of 62 points will start a new cycle. It is often observed that if the stock trade above the mid point then it has the most likely chance of going up and in my case Nifty is above 4997(mid point ) and I will buy nifty at current price of 4999 for target 5035(i.e. 4999+36). Same time I will put my stop loss as 4997-26=4971. If the up side target is achieved then my next target will be in the 2nd cycle termination point of 5035+62=5097. similarly the 2nd cycle of the Nifty will be 4909(i.e. 4971-62).

In between the 4971 and 4909 I will find one target at the mid point of it (i.e.(4971+4909)/2=4940 )the 2nd target will be the mid point of 4940 and 4909(i.e. (4940+4909)/2=4924.5). Same way the intermediate target of the upside move for 2nd cycle can be calculated.

Now as per the calculation I have entered the buy trade and the stop loss is triggered and given me the opportunity to enter the short trade of 2nd cycle. You may surprise to see that that nifty low was 4923.05 on 9th October 2009. I too have the answer why the 2nd cycle halted at 4923? But it is beyond the scope of this article.

For your information I will once again inform you this value is calculated when nifty were quoting at 4999 and have neither made any of these calculated high or low.

This same trick can me applied to all the stocks just by referring its daily volatility and applying the mid point concept on it. It will yield much refined result if you will apply my mid point method as describe on my book on Gann method under the 34 intraday technique section. You will be in a position to calculate many intermediate target points and most likely reversal points using midpoint method explained in the book.

In Smart finance we always experiment and teach you the simplest method which is easy to understand and follow. However stock market or commodity market or forex market has different price tags and each method has its limitation and can me applied only on selected group of price tag. These refined techniques we teach in seminar programs. However many of these techniques are featured in our published books. Try to use the above discussed technique in Nifty Future and experience the success.

if wish to know how to use this concept for option tradeing then must follow my other post in the same forum http://www.traderji.com/derivatives/38771-how-trade-nifty-options-intraday-gain.html
 
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Kairu

New Member
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Thanks Soumyaranjan,

For providing a simple technique to trade in NIFTY Future. I am following this forum since last six months. There are a lot of valuable information & techniques are discussed, shared here. This technique of yours is quite simple and easy to calculate. I shall definitely try this for my tradings. One thing to ask you. When 1st target of buy is achieved from mid point, the 2nd cycle should initiate but towards which direction. Just a little confusion, is it upwards or downwards. I suppose it is downwards. Kindly let me know.

With regards.

Kairu.
 
#5
the down word cycle will follow the same method of calculation you just need to subtract from the mid point. till the last value as per the volatility estimation is not reached the cycle is intact. once it is breached the 2nd cycle will start. however in a day i have experienced that this cycle will not continue for more then 3 times
 

saivenkat

Well-Known Member
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@soumyaranjanin

Thanks for giving a new approach to trade in nifty. I have the following doubts in mind.

1) What approximate time is needed for "observation of nifty", to determine the HIGH AND LOW, before we enter the trade. Similarly after the completion of cycle one, either with upward target or hitting stop loss, what is the time duration that we must allow before entering the 2nd cycle.

2) Daily volatility that is given in nseindia.com under the f&O quote section gives the volatility of the previous day only. Suppose if i want to trade on 04.03.2010, i have previous close of nifty,but only the previous days volatility of nifty futures, i.e, for 03.03.2010. Is it correct to take the previous day's Volatility for today's trading. Please clarify me if have understood correctly or not.

Also i request you, to please share in this forum for the benefit of my comrades here, as how to determine the volatility index, that which is given in the book, using the mathematical calculation.

3) Will not the time factor play a crucial role in determining my trade?

For example: In the example given midpoint is 4997, and the Value of nifty futures at the time of making observation( at 10.45 am)is 4999. It is just 2 points difference.
Since price of nifty > midpoint ......we go long.

Had i noted a few seconds later (at 10.46am), due to the heavy volatility in market, Value of nifty might have been less than 4997,the mid point, Say at 4995.

And here, Since price of nifty < midpoint .....we go short.

Does this mean this method will hold good only when time duration is exactly calculated? or, will be more accurate when the "difference between the midpoint arrived and the value of nifty is more, than in narrow range"?

Regards
Saivenkat.:)
 

shanki99

Well-Known Member
#7
@ Saivenkat

I also had all these doubts....u had nicely put it here....hope Ranjan gives his thoughts out

Btw....at the end of 02nd Mar10, Vol index as per NSE site is 1.17 and the prev close was 5034

That gives us a range as 5034 X 1.17% = 59 pts

On 03rd, the low was 5026.5 and High was 5088.65 = 62 (range).....and NF closed at 5083, exactly at 59 pts away from low
 
#8
@soumyaranjanin

Thanks for giving a new approach to trade in nifty. I have the following doubts in mind.

1) What approximate time is needed for "observation of nifty", to determine the HIGH AND LOW, before we enter the trade. Similarly after the completion of cycle one, either with upward target or hitting stop loss, what is the time duration that we must allow before entering the 2nd cycle.

2) Daily volatility that is given in nseindia.com under the f&O quote section gives the volatility of the previous day only. Suppose if i want to trade on 04.03.2010, i have previous close of nifty,but only the previous days volatility of nifty futures, i.e, for 03.03.2010. Is it correct to take the previous day's Volatility for today's trading. Please clarify me if have understood correctly or not.

Also i request you, to please share in this forum for the benefit of my comrades here, as how to determine the volatility index, that which is given in the book, using the mathematical calculation.

3) Will not the time factor play a crucial role in determining my trade?

For example: In the example given midpoint is 4997, and the Value of nifty futures at the time of making observation( at 10.45 am)is 4999. It is just 2 points difference.
Since price of nifty > midpoint ......we go long.

Had i noted a few seconds later (at 10.46am), due to the heavy volatility in market, Value of nifty might have been less than 4997,the mid point, Say at 4995.

And here, Since price of nifty < midpoint .....we go short.

Does this mean this method will hold good only when time duration is exactly calculated? or, will be more accurate when the "difference between the midpoint arrived and the value of nifty is more, than in narrow range"?

Regards
Saivenkat.:)

it is my immence plesure to answer the above valid questions .
1. the 1st 15 minuit time period you need to take in the current day for observation. keep in mind the volatility estimate cycle will continue maximum till 3rd cycle in aperticular day when the range is very big. to confirm the price is certainly in the 2 nd cycle you need to see the 1/5 th price range from the termination of 1st cycle and 2nd cycle . say 1st cycle terminates at 5310 and 2nd at 5385. then price above 5310+15=5325 confirms the price is in 2nd cycle of the upword jurney.
2. the daily volatility given in the nse site is for previous day but it will be valid for the current day because you are following the cycle termination approch. this approch is the hidden science behind elliot wave count
3. if we will think in this way then we must not be in a position to trade in the market since price is flactuating in nature in the 4th paragrph of the article i have described the mathematical appoch to put a stop loss so small flactuation i may ignore and stick to my stop loss
 

saivenkat

Well-Known Member
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@soumyaranjanin

Still i have some doubts that awaits clarification from you sir.

The 26 points the difference between the low and the current price.
Okay, i am clear as how you arrive at 26 points. Fine

Same time I will put my stop loss as 4997-27=4970.

Can you please explain me sir, how you arrive at 27 point, while making calculation for stop loss.

Is it 4997- 26 =4971

or is correct at 27 points, if so please explain.

Another thing, can you please explain here for the benefit of traderji members as how to calculate, daily volatility based on the mathematical calculations. I think it is not discussed in the article.

Regards
Saivenkat.:)
 

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