Understanding the market with Market Profile- A discretionary approach

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orderflow13

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Market generated information and its dimensions
The goal of the MP is focusing on market generated information.. sorry to bring it up early but i hope u have gone through the basics of market profile and so far u have the vague idea about it...following is not established market profile principle and its just my calculations which could be wrong ..now the dimensions..traditionally market generated information has been calculated in time, price and volume...like physics here also three dimensions..but like physics there is 4th dimension which is time..here in the market is the fourth dimension which is option, its not that i being an option writer bringing in every aspect of ta but i try to think logically..if price moved up, volume moved up and price sustained for long to confirm profile skewed towards long..but we found there has been heavy call writing happen in option cal..that mean some hedge fund, smart money long on NF and shorted call or some contrarian trying to fade the move without being recognised, how will u interprit this information? ..i track open interest put call ratio which gives enough idea whether call writing ( short selling ) is agresive or put writing ( which is bullish ) and using this info in context of price volume and time we may gather all posible market generated information..
will try to post market profile of oi pcr ..feeling bit tired now, like to see different views meanwhile trade safe
best wishes
Alex
 

orderflow13

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Fear profile ( VIX profile )

92.31 W
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VAH= 64.81
POC= 44.81
VAL= 36.81
 
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alex,
5:28 am last post
have a break,,have a kitkat.

gr8 uve started this thread,
pls try to focus more on wht we can take from market profile & use it in our trading to give us an edge.
 

orderflow13

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thanks vikram , late night made my glucose down kitkat much needed....
i attach MP of VIX didnt able to comment ..profile structure has been shifted steadily towards downside, value high 64.81, value low is 36.81, and point of control is 44.81, Its three and an half months vix data till date, u can split it in two 5 days per time frame...i must add market profile doesnt practice profiling of vix so new ones please dont get confuse about this, though you cn make profile of anything which has statistics involved til it make sense of crowd behavior
vix poc is 44.81 which is bit of a worry..that means volatility has been shifted alarmingly above historical value, which was around 25...change in volatility structure has been recently attracted the attention of academic research, as it toppled lot of perceived financial market assumptions how they performed..out of the scope of this thread here
it nut shell point is when there is extreme emotions involved there is always opportunity lurking in the market and theory well support by the fact that open interest in option market alarmingly increased in past three month
 
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Thanks saint sir, .. i must add, this thread is not an attempt to go away from your teachings but infact your posts and understanding of market with its structure always made me in awe & curious..what is that you see but others cant? and why is that when you share your observation other instantaneously see this thing which they never saw before ?.. my approach would be different but my objective is he same ' to understand the market framework ' and see the things contextually ....
Others may say experience but even if some one has that i dnt see the picture wd be different ( there is an old gentlemen of my fathers age who knows the market since ipo of relience, but he still jumps when market moves in his favor and never forget to ask me where the market will be heading? :D )
hope to see your inputs here
Alex

Anything that adds that Edge to your Trading is great stuff......MP has always fascinated me although I have never got down to it,as I have had some success with the way I do things....always open to more knowledge though.

Hope to meet up with you in person one day.

All the best!
Saint
 

pkamalesh

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Nice chart,
my learning query--

will POC of 19 feb around 2779 provide some resistive nature ??
Dumdum..I donno if we can compare and all but like we see the previous resistance and all in charts i feel we can consider the previous POC which ofcourse is decisive...Hope alex can put more thoughts..
 
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